The Talmud of Jmmanuel (The Teachings of Jesus)

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"The Talmud of Jmmanuel," edited by Edward "Billy" Meier. The title, translated, means the teachings of Jesus. This is from a scroll discovered in a tomb in Jerusalem. It was partially translated from Aramaic into German and sent to Billy before the translator was assassinated and the scrolls were destroyed.

With no original documents to analyze, it could be considered a hoax. However, a well-educated scientist took an interest in it and spent six years researching it and concluded that it was not a hoax, but in fact, could well be the proto-type that the gospel of Matthew was drawn from.

The differences between the TJ and the current gospel of Matthew are found mostly in redactions (additions, subtractions and word substitutions) of material that Pauline Christianity would find heretical. The chances of this document being a hoax, however, are astronomical because of the points of agreement and even verbatim text the two share in common.

What is found is that Jmmanuel (Jesus) has a lot in common with today's "New Age" beliefs, when his message is drilled down to its core. This is definitely a worthwhile source to study.

This book answers a number of problematic scripture verses and stands as a challenge to Pauline Christianity. It is no wonder the translator was assassinated and the ancient scrolls were destroyed. Jesus was a heretic. His message derived from advanced human-like ETs. Before the Star Trek generation, this could not have been understood. Before shooting this down, read the book, as well as "Celestial Teachings," by James W. Deardorff, a Christian and Ph.D in meteorology, who spent six years analyzing the TJ, which points out various redactions and discusses the possible motivations in so doing. Mankind has not much changed in 2,000 years when it comes to those who want power over people and will do whatever it takes to get it. Hillary Clinton stands today as one of the best known of those types and, who knows, maybe was one of them back in first century A.D.

There are three books: The Talmud of Jmmanuel (that came out around 1991 or just prior and printed by Wildflower Press, which is the one Dr. Deardorff used, (2) Celestial Teachings, by James W. Deardorff, and (3) the latest version of The Talmud of Jmmanuel, that came out in English the end of 2016. This version has the German printed on the left page and English on the right. It also includes additional information said to have come from ET sources helping to fill in the blanks. I recommend getting the first two and then the third, if you are still interested.

I read that. It warrants more investigation. It is amazing, cursing (anathemizing) your friends and colleagues over a letter? Wow. I hope the human race has grown up more since those times.

Well, it is said that some humans would come into this knowledge. Billy kicked off this renaissance and here we are discovering it for ourselves. It seems the predictions are coming true that J's message would reawaken in 2,000 years. I'm usually led to find all these interesting things. Sounds like maybe you are, too.

Keith H said:

Cheryl Nelson said:
The original NT was written in Greek, so perhaps the name was pronounced differently?
Keith H said:

I found this interesting about the letter J- not invented until the 1600's.

https://www.quora.com/If-the-letter-J-wasnt-invented-until-1600-how...

One of Nikon's talking points was that the Holy Name of the Savior should be spelled in Church Slavonic (and, by extension, in Russian) as Iисусъ (Jesus), following the Greek Ἰησοῦ, and not as Исусъ (Esus). This became one of the main points of contention in the schism ( Raskol ) that immediately followed. The supporters and opponents of the letter J anathemized each other, and those one the losing side (the Old Believers) found themselves persecuted by the established church (and, often, by the state) for the next 300 years, until the Council of 1971. Quite a few were burned at the stake. At least we got The Life of Protopope Avvakum, Written by Himself (the first autobiographic book ever written in Russian) out of the deal...

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Cheryl Nelson February 19, 2017 at 11:03pm

I read that. It warrants more investigation. It is amazing, cursing (anathemizing) your friends and colleagues over a letter? Wow. I hope the human race has grown up more since those times.

Well, it is said that some humans would come into this knowledge. Billy kicked off this renaissance and here we are discovering it for ourselves. It seems the predictions are coming true that J's message would reawaken in 2,000 years. I'm usually led to find all these interesting things. Sounds like maybe you are, too.

Keith H said:

Cheryl Nelson said:
The original NT was written in Greek, so perhaps the name was pronounced differently?
Keith H said:

I found this interesting about the letter J- not invented until the 1600's.

https://www.quora.com/If-the-letter-J-wasnt-invented-until-1600-how...

One of Nikon's talking points was that the Holy Name of the Savior should be spelled in Church Slavonic (and, by extension, in Russian) as Iисусъ (Jesus), following the Greek Ἰησοῦ, and not as Исусъ (Esus). This became one of the main points of contention in the schism ( Raskol ) that immediately followed. The supporters and opponents of the letter J anathemized each other, and those one the losing side (the Old Believers) found themselves persecuted by the established church (and, often, by the state) for the next 300 years, until the Council of 1971. Quite a few were burned at the stake. At least we got The Life of Protopope Avvakum, Written by Himself (the first autobiographic book ever written in Russian) out of the deal...
Cheryl Nelson February 19, 2017 at 7:10pm

The original NT was written in Greek, so perhaps the name was pronounced differently?
Keith H said:

I found this interesting about the letter J- not invented until the 1600's.

https://www.quora.com/If-the-letter-J-wasnt-invented-until-1600-how...
Cheryl Nelson February 19, 2017 at 2:28pm

Well, I won't be surprised if a copy turns up. It might happen after Disclosure, when it would be safer to do so.

Keith H said:

Moshe Dayan, according to Deardorf, was a collector of antiquities. So if that is the true reason for attacking the Refugee Camp, he may have very well absconded with the remaining scrolls.
Cheryl Nelson February 19, 2017 at 11:06am

I read somewhere there may be a copy because the author of Matthew had a copy and the author of Mark, who was in Rome, seemed to have a copy. The author of John seemed to have an acquaintance with the Matthean prototype, but possibly was relying on memory as there isn't verbatim, but yet there are resonances. So, the possibility of two other manuscripts exist. However, if found, the same thing will likely happen like what happened to the one found in the tomb. In the letter from Rashid at the link you provided, Rashid thinks the scrolls were burned, but wonders if they "fell into the hands of the Jews." So, that copy may possibly still exist.

Keith H said:

Found Celestial Teachings on line, read about 1/2 last night will finish today.

https://vhales.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/talmud-of-jmmanuel-disco...

Too bad this is only about 25% of the scrolls. Hopefully the remaining will reappear and we're not destroyed.
Cheryl Nelson February 18, 2017 at 4:41pm

I just finished reading Celestial Teachings by James W. Deardorff. It was clear and made a lot of sense. I had already concluded that the Bible, both OT and NT, were not copies of original manuscripts and redactions had occurred. Dr. Deardorff analyzes many verses in the TJ and compares them against the gospel of Matthew. As a guide, he uses The Gospel According to Matthew, by Dr. Frances Wright Beare, to compare the weaknesses found by Dr. Beare to what the TJ had to say. Then he does a statistical analysis, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that this manuscript could not be a hoax. I am now going to read the TJ itself. From what I read in Deardorff's work, there are going to be some real surprises.

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