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I guess my turn-the-other-cheek philosophy was frustrating her plan to be "brutually honest" about me if I spoke out. (She did threaten me with this.) Her trigger finger has been itching maniacally since May and, seeing that I wasn't going to give her any reason to shoot, she took matters into her own hands. A huge mistake on her part.

I don’t know why she is so threatened by me, after all when I was there all I did was do my job. Maybe she’s having issues with not being the only contactee on Earth who gets invited to holographic presentations or communicates with the Zetas. Big whatever.

However, I do have the right to defend my reputation, especially since she has waxed so prolix and venomous. Parts 1 and 2 of my rebuttal will review some pertinent history with supporting documentation. Part 3 will directly rebut her allegations and summarize my rebuttal.

Now, a message to her spies...why not read it for yourself before deciding to turn it over to her? You just might decide you don't want to be used to do her dirty work any longer.

I do want to clarify that this is not about the Zetas in any way. This is solely about the Red Queen and her atrocious behavior. I am still a Zeta fan, though I suspect some ZetaTalk may be NancyTalk.

[UPDATE 07/13/17: After the revelation that was disclosed in the update to this Rebuttal in 2012, my suspicion that NancyTalk was being promoted as ZetaTalk was proven.  I no longer am a fan of what she considers the Zetas to be, and haven't been for years, as I think whatever benevolent group she may have possibly been in contact with departed and she's been winging it on her own since.  There may be some truth in the pre-2003 Zetatalk, but Nancy has muddied the water so effectively with her alter-ego Zetatalk that it is hard to know what that truth might be.  I continue to believe Nancy and Zetatalk are a government psyops operation.  Professor James McCanney opined years ago that he thought she worked for NASA.]

There is so much complexity to this matter that even focusing on just the more substantive issues has turned this rebuttal into a massive, time-consuming project. Thus, it was released in parts. However, today, July 29, 2010, it is complete. She has only herself to blame.








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Comment by joe kurtz on July 29, 2010 at 11:18pm
mine ad jeanette's vote is for cheryl. it has been that way frm the begining and will stay that way. she is the true light for all of us to follow, and move on with our preperations. cheryl will always be first in our hearts and minds. j&j
Comment by Coedwig the Druid on July 29, 2010 at 11:14pm
I would say that Cheryl has taken more of a defensive posture than that of the aggressor. Has Cheryl come out with teeth bared and snarling? Damned straight she has. When one is berated even after they have "left the proverbial room" I think that it is time for the gloves to come off and wrongs to be righted. I am also adult enough to know that there are generally 3 sides to every story. I'm not saying that Cheryl did anything to deserve her apparent treatment by Nancy but it is obvious that, whether justified or not, Nancy felt threatened by Cheryl and made the conscious decision, to rid herself of that perceived threat. Nancy's actions were less than noble. I would like to think that on some level she may even feel a twinge of remorse. At any rate, my guess is that I will be one of many to be banned on the PS ning because of my perceived betrayal of Nancy in this string. So be it. I bear no grudges and I wish them well. We are all fighting the same battle, survival. After reading Ronnie's post below I think that we have had an early casualty, in both nings.
Comment by Alex Cortes on July 29, 2010 at 11:14pm
I joined these nings to learn, my vote has to be cast with Cheryl who welcomed me and my opinions with open arms, even the opinions that don't run in her favor. Seeing as how I am suspended from the other site for simply expressing my opinion the choice was simple. I accept Nancy's choice and I wish her the best. As I expressed to her, I simply feel that cutting me off from the friends I made on that site was a deplorable method of dealing with an opinion that simply differed from hers. I will not make an alternate account because I still respect that it was their choice as moderators to handle me as they saw fit. I think my mind set falls more in line with the people of this ning.
Comment by Coedwig the Druid on July 29, 2010 at 10:50pm
My vote is for Cheryl! I believe your story part and parcel. That opinion was bolstered by the fact that Nancy went after you even in your absence. Had you ignored her allegations it might have appeared that you were incapable of defending your honor because there was no defense. I reiterate how sad that it came to this need to defend yourself but INHO (God I love that) your hand was forced.
Comment by Coedwig the Druid on July 29, 2010 at 10:34pm
I don't think that people joined this site to learn from it's creator. I think the creator has made a site where we might learn from each other. It is that simple and I for one am pleased as hell that Cheryl has created this new opportunity for us!
Comment by desertrose on July 29, 2010 at 10:27pm
Thank you Coedwig , beautifully said :)
Comment by mr ssssmith on July 29, 2010 at 10:26pm
Thanks folks. I really do have to be getting on to other things.

Comment by Coedwig the Druid on July 29, 2010 at 10:25pm
There is more than enough room in this world for more than one site. Today has been a struggle for those of us that are here for a more faith based look at the Pole Shift and the after times. I don't claim to understand why people do or say the hateful things they do. That is so far behind me, in my youth. I really care about the members on both ning sites. I am struggling with the idea that someone would feel they need to go to either to "spy". Spy on what? From what I have seen, this site is an open book. Cheryl has shown us everything, "warts and all" so to speak. Nancy, if you are here, I feel that spying is so beneath someone of your caliber and obvious gifts. I hope that you are not here because I would like to think better of you. Hopefully, I am talking to the wall and not to Nancy. This is not a competition. These are peoples lives that some of you are toying with. If you are angry go buy a punching bag! We are here to learn and to support. If support isn't your thing then stick to one of the groups in the ning that is science based and give a little respect and compassion to those of us who see the Pole Shift as something more than a science project.
Comment by Kim B on July 29, 2010 at 10:23pm
"People joined here to learn from the site creator...who else? So get on with it...inspire and weave a positive experience that will insure growth and prosperity"

We all learn from each other.
Comment by desertrose on July 29, 2010 at 10:22pm
Big words coming from someone who hides behind various identities. Masks as you called them did you not, Nan......ummmm, errrrr Mr Black ?


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