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Confessions from an ex-moderator of the PS Ning (poleshift.ning.com)

Hey everyone,

My name is Alex and I recently resigned as a moderator from the Pole Shift ning site after 2 years of working with them. It was a page on the site that prompted me to come here and say what I'm about to say to you. I wish to explain what I went through, the after-effects of leaving, and to utterly apologize to the members here, including those who were suspended and ended up landing on this site; the ones that were hurt and told they were wrong. I want to extend an offer of friendship, the very place that I had so wrongly condemned.

This is the page that blew me away and prompted this, thanks to my brother: http://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/you-become-what-you-resist

And THIS jewel: http://zetatalk.com/beinghum/b68.htm

When I first joined the ning, it was much more open - meaning- flexible, tolerant, and more accepting of more off-topic discussions. I had become a moderator at the time of Cheryl's vamoose, amongst the endless discussions regarding her "wrongness" and apparent betrayal. And ended up in the middle of a skirmish of which I had no prior basis of, which led to joining the group mentality of "Us Vs. Them" with little question. I participated in "secret" operations that involved creating false memberships here and attacking the members who spoke differently. How sneaky! "We're doing so good snooping around and Zeta-bombing her followers! We're so fantastic!" To me that was logical at the time (and fun) and I was totally into it. How silly! But now I'm looking back and kicking myself because I understand now how absurdly ridiculous the whole thing was!

I was never one to really hunt down members and suspend them, but I still did it on occasion when I felt the need to. Overtime it escalated quite a bit. I can tell you that clearly -as it's been pointed out so blatantly- that they have become a place of rigid rules and intolerance towards anything not ZetaTalk. I tried to remind them that the Zetas themselves have urged and urged us endlessly via Nancy to use our common sense, to take what they say and view it from many angles to draw our own conclusions. But that is not how they operate on the ning. They'd deny it too!

To those who were suspended for reasons of posting "disinfo" or even spiritual ideals, there was nothing "wrong" with the info of which you offered. I know so many were excited to join, who found a place to share, but once doing so were blasted out and told they were wrong and upon asking for reasoning of suspension, were greeted with with blunt answers. Hell, some were even suspended immediately after they joined without notice! They have their own reasons. The info was only wrong to them by what they have come to understand. Understand this, so that you can understand them. They mean no harm, and did not intend to hurt anybody in their suspensions.

They have every right to act the way they do and there is nothing wrong with them. I want the members here to see them in a more positive light, to see that they are no worse, no better. They are simply operating in a different mindset with more rules. Sadly, they still consider this a place of weakness and lies, and likewise, I am sure there is still much disapproval towards them on this side as well. I will continue to post my experiences through the comments on this blog. There is much to say.

And to end this, I approve of neither side. Nobody is any better than the other, yet they will see this at some point and will slap many labels on my head and some of them will consider me a complete traitor, but it hardly matters now.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT NANCY LIEDER, ZETATALK, AND POLESHIFT.NING.COM, GO TO APOCALYPTICHOUSEWIFE.ANGELFIRE.COM.

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Comment by nicholas fowler on June 6, 2012 at 1:15am

Maybe a period f cooling, of reflection on her part, of putting things in context. does anyone have her email, I would be happy to drop her a line In a  week or two, just saying she is missed, or something similar? It may be what she is looking for, there is so much goodness in thus forum, in the hearts of its members. we are all damaged souls or else we would not be having our  earth experiences. pain is often the way of growth in our soul journey here on earth.. Anyhow just a thought.

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on June 6, 2012 at 12:54am

I'm sad she left too.  The dialogue would help her.  She's always welcome to return, and maybe she will.

Comment by nicholas fowler on June 6, 2012 at 12:52am

what is so sad, is she has abandoned the possibly best place to find that balance in herself, to shall we say, balance out the negatives of her bad experiences with the positives she will find on this forum. Forgive me Keith, I feel a bit defensive for her, thats all. say no more.

I'll tell you what I'll do, Tolecs round table should be archived maybe tomorrow, so how about my doing a synopsis if it? Might have to listen twice to it. Take our minds of NL and ZT, and focus on more joyous and positive things. Now, I am making another pot of tea and taking my supplements, need fortifying LOL

Comment by Keith H on June 6, 2012 at 12:41am

Nicholas, I don't think anyone here suggested she leave that I am aware.

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on June 6, 2012 at 12:35am

It was her choice.  You see, her heart is still there and receiving anger here was adding to her wounds.  When folks come from over there, we need to be gentle, to help them through their process.  I know some people are still angry here and I know they need to vent, but we have to find a balance to do one without harming another.  I'm sad.  It seems like such an impossible situation.  Love is where we need to be but it's so hard.

Comment by nicholas fowler on June 6, 2012 at 12:31am

I hope it was entirely her own choice, and not suggested to her by others???  very very sad. most unfortunate.

Comment by nicholas fowler on June 6, 2012 at 12:29am

Cheryl is correct, I wonder though if the problem here i simply, a lot of hurt egos?  not going too deeply into analyses. the cure I would like to offer, is simply, recognize this and live a bit more fir each other. that includes me, I too have ego problems. . another aspect to all this is the fear of and the sense of rejection. if we put a lot, , a lot of emotional energy into an endeavor and get rejected by others, this will cause pain. this is one major reason why so many cling to religion, and various cults. fear of abandonment. It is as though damage has been done to our feelings of self worth, and the pain can be deep, very deep, I know from life experience.

the answer for me is to live for others, and if we feel a bit damaged at all from say rejection by PS ning,  to do some act that takes us outside our area of pain. a small act of love of others will suffice but do it on a daily basis. it puts ego in its place and unravels those aspects of our true nature we often  locked up inside ourselves.   it can also lead to a process of awakening. I hope it does.

Comment by Keith H on June 6, 2012 at 12:23am
Alex R. Has decided to leave.
I must say after reading her last few posts, defending the other Ning was 180 deg out of character.
Comment by Cheryl Nelson on June 6, 2012 at 12:14am

Alex, I know you've departed but I hope you keep reading. I wish you well in your healing process.

I disagree that the mods at psning have every right to harm people on a whim.  I also disagree that people have put me up on a pedestal.  Did you consider that maybe we just agree on many issues?  Many here have their on personal observations of the psning so this is not the pied piper happening here.  I think you are wounded too, and haven't put enough distance between you and the cause of your angst.  There is a reason you left and you need to remember it. 

Gerard has an uncanny ability to read people like a novel.  Yes, he does.

...he's very sensitive and analyzes the crap out of everything.  Guess he hung around me too much.  ;-) 

As far as him being a rag doll, I don't view him as such, but I do believe Nancy influences him heavily.  And it's not a bad thing if she were an honest being.  It's easy to believe she is something other than she is when you haven't seen it for yourself.  I am disappointed that you never read the rebuttal.  I think you were afraid to find out the truth, so in that regard you are deceiving yourself and allowing untruth to exist.  But I understand.  It has to be taken in baby steps.  When everything collapses all at once, it is overwhelming.

As for "getting over" Nancy, well, sorry, but I know what I know and nothing changes the truth.

And Alex, you must realize ... if I went to psning, do you really think anyone would listen to me?  I'd be banned so fast, if I even got in.  In that regard, I think you expected too much coming here.  But we lived up to our reputation and let you talk freely.  You've raised some good points and I think we all appreciate your taking the time to come here and apologize and set some records straight.  Don't expect change overnight, but as we go into the shift and people are more pressed to find their orientations, change will come. 

Find your point of balance, dear one.  It will all work out in the end.

Comment by nicholas fowler on June 6, 2012 at 12:01am

one thought, maybe she and her coterie of moderators are suffering from a spoiled child syndrome?

the more we tell the truth the more they are hurt, by it. the mots painful thing to someone in denial, and with ego, is someone else telling them what actual reality is. or simply giving them a different opinion.

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