http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/what-to-expect-during-the-next-stage-of-collapse_08292013

Relying on propane or oil for winter?  STOCK UP NOW!

What this article proposes about homelessness could explain, at least in part, the FEMA camps.

Do you have a skill?  No?  Start discussing what kind of skills will be useful in a collapse.  Any kind of medical training would be one.  I have a friend who taught himself to brew beer and bake bread.  (A real yeast junkie.)  Learn how to service firearms; sharpen blades; garden; take care of farm animals; make useful items from raw materials; raise chickens for eggs, goats for milk, raise catfish in barrels in excess of your own needs so that you can barter with others for things you need.

#9 is important if you are where you plan to be.  Virgin soil is difficult to work and plants don't grow to their potential, if at all.  You will do yourself a big favor by following this suggestion and having good soil/manure brought in.  Talk to your supplier.  Putting black plastic sheets over it will kill bugs and keep it from dispersing.  I have a dumptruck load that grew all kinds of weeds and grasses (and the roots are probably what kept the wind and rain from eroding it).  But now I have to remove all those roots.

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  • Yes, Lee, I learned a lot about people.  I learned that people who really think they are Christian can act in the most bizarre, unChristian-like manner.  So, I know what lurks beneath the thin social veneer. 

  • I wish we could take a group of people on this site a create a great community.

  • Well, yes and no, Lee.  My ex-husband and I joined a Christian group doing just that in 1999.  Back then, it was y2k based.  People from different parts of the country joined.  It was a place called "Rivendell."  But a Rivendell it wasn't.  There was a church at the center of it.  Two pastors (one from California and one from Ohio) joined, but the local guy was the power.  It quickly became a legalistic, finger-pointing quagmire.  Before it became too bad, we got out, but what happened afterwards was unbelievable. It turned into a dog-eat-dog world.

    That's why people should be in a community that is already known and working, and not trying to throw something together at the last minute.  Rivendell was a bad mix of personalities and a power-hungry nutcase running the show.  It turned into a cult and did a lot of damage to the people that chose to stay. 

    Being disconnected from the grid is good, if you can handle it.  I have land but I had electricity run because I couldn't survive without it.  I remember there was a guy on the other group who went to live on his land for about six months.  He came back.  Same thing.  Very difficult. 

    So, my eyes are somewhat open as to the romance and realities of these concepts.

  • Yes, small like-minded communities will be better ways to survive.

  • I think the helmuts should go below the ears.  I mean the floor of the skull is the roof of your mouth. 

    Kind of looks like a big Hershey's kiss.  Mmm.  Chocolate.  Maybe we should make Hershey kiss helmuts.  Multipurpose EMF protection and food storage.

  • so I guess we are back to this huh?

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  • You could have it all and then a sinkhole opens up underneath you.  Or a fireball lands on top of you.  Or the floods (including deluge downpours) washing everything away.  There are no guarantees for a safe location anywhere in the world.  Those that promoted there were, were giving false hope.

  • Good, Kim.  We have a thick, sticky clay here in the Appalachians, and lots of tree roots.

  • We have a load of wood for our wood stove - enough for the winter.  And of course lots of dead wood in our woods if need be.  I have a lot of skills listed above, garden areas prepared several years of tilling in composted manure....

  • Man who knew too much...LOL

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