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Comment by Cheryl Nelson on December 1, 2013 at 7:46pm

All good points.  They all lead to love... learn to love yourself and then you can love others.  Help your fellow man.  Live in the higher vibrations of love... compassion... gratitude... forgiveness... unconditional love.

Comment by Byron wilkins on December 1, 2013 at 5:51pm


   There are so many roads that have been taking us no where. Man has had a fascination for figuring out what life is all about and that will never end. But that is good if you look in the right places. Looking inward is where everything is pray to yourself your subconscious mind will find a way for anything within reason, that is good to happen for you. Your brain is a computer and even when you are asleep it is working on assignments that you have given it. We are all quite powerful when we realize it. We do have to fight against what society teaches us and that is to be insecure, you need deodorant,  hair color, special clothes, jewelry, new car. without these and many other things you are inferior to the ones that do. Crawling out of your shell and believing in yourself is no easy task but it is not that hard when you realize who it is that is putting you in the shell and why. When you see someone planting a garden in their front yard and fighting with the city council you are witnessing someone who realized that they have power. We all need to stop complying with things that just keep us enslaved. You are the captain of your soul and the creator of your own destiny. All you have to do is believe it.      

Comment by Peter S on December 1, 2013 at 5:31pm

All good thoughts.

Cheryl, even though ascension may be built into our DNA - I think we still need to work towards freeing our dormant DNA - this is where we need to work for/on ourselves and not rely on others. This work may needed over many earth 3D lifetimes before we reach the desired level.

We have been tempted to do nothing though with the many promises of ascension for all that want it - all you need to do is be here - I'm not sure that is correct any more (although I'd be happy to find out if I'm wrong) - as I believe we may receive some help to ascend but only if we have made enough initial steps towards our own individual advancement.

Interesting to note that there are some similarities in what each are saying - but we obviously all have our own thoughts. Great to have a site that allows free speech and expression of different points of view without criticism or ridicule!

Comment by Donald Alvarado on December 1, 2013 at 3:57pm


Each of us knows what we need to do to become more than we are. I know what my shortcomings are, I battle with them every day. We must work at it. I know what I need to conquer to become noble and I am sure everyone in their heart knows as well.

I think this is the inward look and we all must do it to grow so we are ready to go out there and join the rest of the community as responsible and positive beings.

If we are waiting for some savior to do the work for us, then we are not ready.

The only one that can save a person is that person doing it themselves.

I think that if anyone is waiting for anything to save them, they will be waiting for a very long time.

We are the ones that we have been waiting, plain and simple.

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on December 1, 2013 at 2:01pm

Donald, you may be close in your idea that ascension is something we have to work for or strive for.  If, indeed, ascension is built into our DNA, we don't have to work for it...  However, creating a "now-you're-supposed-to" illusion keeps people frustrated and despairing because they can never reach the carrot being dangled before them.  However, on the other hand, I do think we need to work on our spirituality, but maybe it's on different things or in different ways that what the mainstream new age community propagates.  I just don't know.  The best advice I've heard yet is to look inward for your answers, look to your higher self.  From the things I've tried, I've gotten the best results.

Comment by Donald Alvarado on December 1, 2013 at 12:57pm


Well said

Comment by Byron wilkins on December 1, 2013 at 12:23pm


  e have been planted with one after another non event to keep us waiting for the right time for the controllers to take charge of us, they are failing and being caught at every turn. The last four false flags were a flop, Kenya Mall, Navy yard, LA airport and the NC nuke. Do we think we need magical aliens to do our bidding because we are so helpless, I think not. The group of people who are getting tired of this control grid are talking and they are on the news.  I see people breaking the rules of our political system and getting spanked all the time.

   Our biggest problem is that we are waiting for someone else to make the corrections and the fear of talking has been implanted so deeply that people will watch their families die right in front of their face, with all the poisons rather than open their mouths and change things. You are the Force , join the club.     

Comment by Donald Alvarado on December 1, 2013 at 11:13am

Byron, exactly right, we do not need anyone to guide us. We can navigate just fine if we do it with love.

And as far as ascension goes, we are all waiting for it. But it just may be that many have already ascended before and have returned here to assist. It may also be that ascension is more literal that we think, and the idea that it is metaphysical are simply planted in our society to make us believe that it is something to strive for by the controllers. They know and they want to keep us thinking it is a magical event when it is not.

I do not wish to offend anyone by this idea so please do not crucify me because you believe that ascension is a mystical transformation. I get why one may think that. I have all those very thoughts myself, but maybe the new age brainwashing causes it. Or the controllers want to throw you off track.

To ascend, to go up

T descend, to go down.

Could it be so simple and the controllers want you to think it is complicated. Of course they do.

Perhaps when your feet leave the surface of the planet and you go out into space you are ascended?

Is that even possible because?

90% of what we believe is planted regardless if we believe it or not. And the lucky bright ones use the other 10% or less for original creative thought. 

Now be nice and please do not yell at me.


Comment by Peter S on December 1, 2013 at 6:25am

Interesting .... what you (Cheryl and Kim) have described below, with a stretch of the imagination, could also describe my ascension theory.

You have both put forward a similar idea where either our "etheric" (Kim) or "higher vibrational self" (Cheryl) needs to merge with our physical self before we can ascend.

If we consider the "astral" self as a form of the "etheric" and / or "higher vibrational self", then I'm suggesting at ascension the "astral" self merges with a new 4D/5D physical self (which displays the attributes Kim mentioned such as no more disease, suffering or physical death). In this theory, our inadequate 3D physical bodies (which are subject to disease, etc) would be unable to cope in 4D/5D - otherwise why wouldn't we be able to experience at least glimpses of 4D/5D already?

Actually, maybe we do experience glimpses - as I think our DNA is multidimensional, however we are unable to reach it's full potential in 3D. Something I read recently fits in nicely with this theory and that was: An important aspect about DNA is that ascension is built-in!

I'm certainly not suggesting that people should end their lives to attain ascension - I don't believe it works that way - in fact if people do end their lives they will more than likely find they will be re-birthed into another 3D experience. For ascension to occur, I believe a "key" needs to be unlocked somehow in our DNA. This process may have started to happened already for some individuals and according to a number of prophecies will happen en mass in due course (in some form or another).

I, like many others, I assume, are looking forward to that day.

In the meantime, I think we all have a responsibility to keep moving forward in trying to understand what is going on in this world and continue to improve our physical and spiritual beings as well as continuing the fight for personal sovereignty which I believe will help us access some of our dormant DNA (which has been suppressed).

I could easily be 100% wrong - or partly right and partly wrong - I'm completely open to all of those possibilities - it's just my current thoughts.

Ok, enough from me - I'm stepping off the soap box.

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on November 30, 2013 at 10:34pm

What I remember reading is that the higher vibrational self will merge with the physical self before we can ascend.  Ascension is turning into a real smorgasbord.


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