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Comment by Brad Leathery on July 17, 2011 at 11:56pm
If this is true it also throws a big monkey wrench into ZT nonsense about the inner planets being out of their orbits, the Earth being stopped dead in it's tracks, etc., etc. Looks like everything is right where it should be! And what an amazing picture it makes. Truly beautiful...
Comment by Brad Leathery on July 17, 2011 at 11:39pm

I agree, no way it was a rocket. No way if it was it would be seen in exact same configuration in Australia, on the same day but at a different time. (Sun rises later there than in Hawaii).

Msred Thanks for the pic. I haven't had time to check out the times of the planets rising that day, but I think you may have solved this.

If you consider that Jupiter and Venus are so close together that they would look like one object, then the configuration would match. And rember John said the main object looked like it may be two objects.....

Comment by msred on July 17, 2011 at 11:08pm

Planets before sunrise in May 2011 

"These are the planets around May 11-12, 2011.  The exact view of the planets will depend on where you are on Earth's globe.  Just remember, Venus and Jupiter are the two bright ones!"

Comment by Keith H on July 17, 2011 at 10:31pm
I don't believe for one minute that it was rocket stages. Doesn't look anything like rocket stages.
Comment by Cheryl Nelson on July 17, 2011 at 10:01pm
*bump*
Comment by Cheryl Nelson on July 17, 2011 at 11:59am
And the distant city lights shown earlier, those look like the three objects rising in the sky.  I don't think those were city lights.
Comment by Cheryl Nelson on July 17, 2011 at 11:09am

Not having ever seen a rocket launch, I was curious, so I found this video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tNFWkdCvFs.  It seems to be a two-stage rocket but there are some remarkable distinctions between this video and the original video, being the distance between the stages and the smoke plumes that are noticeably absent. 

By distance, I mean that the two smaller objects (stages) are very close to the main object considering how fast the main rocket travels.  If that close, the plumes wouldn't have had time to dissipate and the sun was reflecting off the objects, so it stands to reason that the plumes would have been illuminated, too.

Also notice that the two smaller objects keep pace with the main object as they all travel upward, instead of falling behind (if they are, indeed, the first two stages of a rocket).  This link mentions another rocket obtaining Mach 1 within 35 seconds of liftoff:  http://video.search.yahoo.com/video/play?p=vandenberg%20three%20sta.... so there is no way the jettisoned earlier stages are going to keep pace and keep rising.

And wouldn't earlier stages of a rocket be left behind linearly, instead of one to the left and one to the right of the main rocket?  I considered drift but those earlier stages seem too close to the main rocket to have drifted that much.  Could be the angle viewed.  I wondered if jettisoned earlier stages burn completely out or if there is enough of the rocket stage left to reflect sunlight as much as the two smaller objects do.  From the first video, it seemed like only the plume was left.

This doesn't seem like a rocket launch.  What do you think?

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on July 17, 2011 at 10:57am
I'm confused.  I wanted to read an article about this launch and I cannot find anything about a launch on Tuesday, May 10, 2011.  There was a launch on June 10, 2011; however, June 10th was a Friday, not a Tuesday.  The headline of the video says June 2011, while the video itself says it is Tuesday, May 10, 2011.
Comment by Keith H on July 17, 2011 at 9:38am
Thanks Morris, an explanation for these images.
Comment by Morris Levin on July 17, 2011 at 1:42am

This is the explanation from the person who oversees the Hawaii telescope...

 

Rocket from Van Den Berg 3 stages seen on the horizon. Picked up on web cam not in telescope that scans and looks out over windward side to check for weather.  Thus is a direct quote from my friend just before dinner.  This is great. So it is an atmospheric phenomenon. .

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