Non-psychic channelling and telepathy

Hi, this is my personal investigation on... Ok, internet world, things happen, and just after I have got my investigation working pretty well, I am finding new information, then I see how myself living in my own wordings and doing "falsely inventive words". I create new meanings on many words in my research, without knowing that there are better words. Anyway, yeah, channelling and telepathy, this is my final decision on how I am going to describe them.

1) The "channelling" I have described here are supposedly known as "kriya yoga" in Hinduism or "spontaneous qigong" in Taoism. It is about spontaneous body movements. They use prana or qi to describe this phenomenon. Google "body move itself" or "body move spontaneous" if you want to find out more (which I have already included some inside my link below, saving your internet life).

2) The telepathy I have described here is not psychic. It is not about "voice that speaks" inside mind. I has to do with imagination.

... both have nothing to do with external entity, but to channel and telecommunicate with "self's self" or "another-self". Some may use "subconscious" or "higherself", but here, I am describing it as "imagery self".

This is the link of my work:

http://enkipendragon.wordpress.com/2015/05/24/metaphysics-spirituality-channelling-telepathy-and-meditation/


My personal story:

One day (around June 2014) I had a dream dreaming myself moving my own body like I am observing my own body for it was moving by itself. Then I woke up and I tried it for the first time, it worked.

A month later, I was wondering if I can, since I can have my body moving spontaneously, instead of that, having my mind thinking spontaneously? Then I tried to communicate with my own brain for the first time, it worked, again.

Later, I joined groups and there were gurus or masters telling me I must been wanting to develop psychic ability (which they were totally wrong) and I was wrong for doing that. I tried to resonate with them but they wanted to believe what they wanted to believe on me. They told me that these were subconsciousness or pastlife but no such thing as "self's another self", or they were keep telling me that I had developed a personality split and had to see a psychiatrist or read their suggested (boring) "mind opening" books.

This type of channelling and telepathy need no years of practice but just a "one-time-activation" and there you have it. It is not psychic at all. It has nothing to do with channelling or telecommunicating with an external entity. What I do here is to communicate with my own "another self" and it has never being able to give me something that I have never learned, understood or being able to imagine before. It does give me some strange energy flow sensation occasionally during my sleep, but has never effected my physics.

Other then that, I do mantra and mudra a lot, which I can never understand what they mean. Even by asking my "another self", it has no idea why it does that as well. It only says that that it is its nature of being "spontaneous and random", which I have investigated and explained in my work. It leads me to investigate the metaphysics of itself. The link above is the outcome of my personal research with it.

Perhaps the strangest thing of my practice here, has got me into on questioning it if it is a dragon. Yes, a dragon, you hear it here. During my channelling, it has showed to me that many signs of its (imagery) body and behaviour not being human at all. Sleep, eat, bath, drink, anything, it can just behave like a lizard. I can choose to deny it, but this has something to do with my believe on what should be believed.

Most of the people who practice spirituality, such as kriya yoga or spontaneous qigong, often thinking of "these are all belonged to me". They do understand things about self, ego, pastlifes, higher self, subconscious, god, oneness, void, multidimensional selves and so on, but the way they interpret these are, it must not to be about "entity possession", "personality spilt" or "division of consciousness". I am fine with that actually. However when I ask about my logic, they reject me.

My logic is simple, if I have my body and brain do something that I cannot understand at all, then I have the reason to believe that it is not or partially coming from me. Most people understand this part, and explain to me that, with their own understanding on everything, it is just about the pastlifes, higher self, subconscious, god, oneness, void, multidimensional selves things, of whatever they want to philosophize with. However, I take the other part, asking that if it is partially from me, that I have the reason to respect what it really is. This is the part they cannot accept, which they explain to me about the "entity possession", "personality spilt" or "division of consciousness" things, and I must not dwell into this kind of thing. I find the contradiction on both of what they are trying to say. Firstly, they say we have to let go of everything and let it do whatever it wants, as this is how kriya yoga or spontaneous qigong works; next, they say only to the point when it has developed into its own personality thing, then it has to be removed. How can you say you have to let go of everything for it to work and then suppress it from being something? I want them to explain this clearly to me but they tell me to go see psychiatrist or read their suggested (boring) "mind opening" book.

Let me rephrase my logic here, is that I am thinking about, for anyone who do things that him/herself cannot understood, it must be coming from things that are not from him/herself, therefore, it has to be respected for being itself. To say, "kriya yoga" or "spontaneous giqong" or other similar practice, for it is been doing something for "its practitioner", that the practice itself on the practitioner must has its existing beingness, the "kriya yoga" or "spontaneous qigong" itself has its own beingness. I have tried to explain this to the gurus or masters I meet but they keep changing the subject on what they want me to listen to (or maybe their brain are destroyed by reading too many books). The way I see this, on these gurus or masters, are like humans have been liking to stripping things that are granted as freebie but hardly recognize the things as "it has its beingness of itself", which has to be respected. You can say this is as pantheism.

I do not like to argue about my dragon identity with people who are unable to see the whole structure of something that have to be explained as whole. Any explanation that compiles of fragmented structures but being unable to hold itself/themselves as whole, is not interested to me. No suggested book reading please, show me your complete understanding, do not copy and paste phrases.

So please enjoy reading it, I do not expect anything by putting my work here. (Nor do I cared about impeach, which I can simply deny, cheers.)


Thank you.

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  • There is something I must defend. 

    When I try to respond to you replies... you reply ends with negative. Not offensive negativity,  but the rejection of possible positivity.

    I meet a lot of so called gurus or masters, and they all telling me the same thing like you did. They tell me to look for some other guru or master or read some book. This is how I am convinced that "distortion of good intention" has really brought many degree of suppression in our human development.

    Of course you can say that I can actually answer properly to strengthen my point. However, I am seeing that this kind of behaviours have been occurring in many things and brought down our human consciousness, education, politics, medication, technology, business. The reason is simply like this, when one start to see something bad in it, it simply stop people to look properly into it. I know, you would say that by having looking into the negativity of my stuff here thus is to help me to get me working on my problem you found. But wait, the result here is, I have to consistency filling your suggestion... In the end, I stop myself from developing just to fulfil people's need, but that is actually not my problem!

    I know myself acting negative towards you, but that is what I actually want to do, to stop myself answering this type of negative question, to chase you away. I have no regret at all to do that, however the result is, people will avoid me. Actually, I do not really care, it is good to me. I do not forget myself my real motive is to develop myself, not to fulfil other people's arguments. I do not let myself fall into that pit hole. 

    Yes I want to attract same minded people. Showing a bit negativity I do not really care, people who resonate me will still come to me. As long as I d not need to fill the tiring negative question. Meeting with positive people, as you say, they might be blinding myself in my blind faith, but what I really need here is not a debate, I need experimental data and result to go further investigate. That is what I am aiming for in the very beginning. If I am just discussing with you the negative arguments, I am actually going nowhere although you may think that the such discussion is useful, to me it is totally meaningless, they aren't true experimental data at all.

    It is not that I do not see you replies, it is the kind of replies that have been repeating over and over again on me going from site to site. I am tired of this. Saying entity possession is a red flag to me, as far as I have experienced, and I have found out that many who believe in such theory is kind of suppressive. They do not easily believe in positivity. I do not like to deal with this kind of people, wasting my time. I ask myself, is it possible for me I have a positive discussion with people whom started with negative question? My answer is no. Even if I satisfy your question, I don't see your interest in my positivity. 

    Anyway, thanks for your concern. 

    PyrianB said:

    I try to speak with reasons, and back-up my points with arguments, but you ignore most of them, and you think that I have my own agenda. If you really think that I am unreasonable, please respond to my points in my previous reply. If you ignore them, that would makes you look like the one who is trying to convince people with so many fragmented ideas which is not working. If you cannot provide your valid arguments, you are the onewho is stubborn and stuck in blind faith. While you can see what you can see in me, you fail to see what I can see in you.

  • I will never irritation anyone's good will even I know he/she may doing something wrong. This is the kind of people I will surely taking care of, because they do it with love, not distortion.

    That is how I discern all of the information. Love, not distortion. I will never let any beings distort and harm my love ones. 

    Thanks for you concern.

    PyrianB said:

    What I am trying to convey is, sole good intention would get you nowhere, it doesn't guarantee you are doing the right thing and meeting the right beings.

  • I don't profess that I must be always right, I am just looking for truth. I might be right, or not, you might be right, or not. If I were wrong, I would stand corrected, but please back up your points with valid arguments. If you already have certain mindset, or you believe that you already know the truth or the answer, then it is clear to me that anything that differs from yours must not be right, distort your good intention, etc.. and may I ask what is my motivation to distort your good intention? What can I gain in return for doing so?

    I try to speak with reasons, and back-up my points with arguments, but you ignore most of them, and you think that I have my own agenda. If you really think that I am unreasonable, please respond to my points in my previous reply. If you ignore them, that would makes you look like the one who is trying to convince people with so many fragmented ideas which is not working. If you cannot provide your valid arguments, you are the one who is stubborn and stuck in blind faith. While you can see what you can see in me, you fail to see what I can see in you.

    If you think that you already know the truth or the answer, what's the point for you to post it here? If what you are saying or thinking is right, don't you think it would stand up to scrutiny? Maybe you are just looking to connect with like-minded people, that's okay, people have the right to believe what they want to believe in, even it is unfounded. If this is really the case, I would not try to question you, because that's the last bastion of your belief, you would defend and deny everything that are throw at it, no matter what.

    I believe the sinister ones always mask themselves in angelic forms, while the real angels look ordinary.

    What I am trying to convey is, sole good intention would get you nowhere, it doesn't guarantee you are doing the right thing and meeting the right beings.

    This is my last reply to this thread.

  • Your intention is good, maybe you are trying to help humanity. Realistically speaking, having good intention alone doesn't guarantee you are walking the right path and meeting all the angelic beings along your journey.

    The Tao is the only way, there may be countless different names for it, but it matters not. There may be different path leading to the same Tao, but we need not to re-invent new wheels along the way..

    You agenda here is clearly seen. You cannot even prove yourself right and yet to try to tell me I am not guarantee to be right? You just want to tell me that I might be wrong and introduce to me what you think is right. My friend, please learn yourself that you are being seen naked in front of public.

    How can you even tell your angelic beings you call are real? Thus I have no logical reason to accept what you said here. You are hardly reasonable, if you can see yourself what other see in you. Your are stubborn in a blind faith, trying to convince people with so many fragmented ideas which is not working. I am simply not convinced with you. Can you get it?

    This is not my problem. I see something in you, but it is up to you to get it. 

    My answer is still the same, anyone whom try to distort one's good intention is not to be easily trusted. If you want to believe that kind of angelic beings, that is your choice. I do believe in angels, but only in those who never do distortion to good intention.

  • Just be sure we try to maintain an objective mindset and do not get too persornal into it.

    1) I zero out my thought and let it happens. I do not think at all during the process, you think. 

    2) Same as above. Zero out thought and let it happens.

    So do you think zero out your thought make it 100% that you are *channeling* from an inner you?

    There are basically 2 types of channeling from what I've known, the first type, the channeller's consciousness is shut down and he does not remember what he has said and done. The second type, the channeller's WILL remains passive and receptive, he can retell what he has said and done. Strictly speaking, when someone zero out his thought, it doesn't necessarily mean that he must be channels from within or external, because to me, both works almost the same way. I see that your issue is about defining your imagery dragon, your definition is different from the *mainstream*. It doesn't not matter how you define it, an imaginary friend or whatever, or how you term it, if it really exists on some level, to me that it exists and that's all.

    3) I do not say I am a dragon in any past life, can you prove yourself to me dragon existed as a physical being on earth before?

    Have I mentioned that you state that you were a dragon?

    I make that point, because the images you see could be coming from your subsconscious (past life memory), again, I know this contradict with your own *definition*, and again, you have no way to ascertain that these images are not subsconcious or you are actually seeing an astral dragon, but yet you insist that it is just an imagery dragon.

    My take on spirituality is, it can be examined in an objective or pseudo-scientific way, if the things that you say can only be examined by yourself, and not the others around you (since it is just a dragon created in your own imagination, just to put it this way), then it lacks in credibility in some way, as it sounds like one's own make-believe. If I really can do some serious psychic channellings, I would try to channel some information that is useful to me or to my human counterparts. If I want to ascertain that I am receiving a valid psychic information (just to make sure that it is not my own make-believe), I would try to ask at least 3 other psychics with different background and faith if they see and hear the same thing as I do.

    I simply do not and will never accept anything that try to distort one's good intention.

    Your intention is good, maybe you are trying to help humanity. Realistically speaking, having good intention alone doesn't guarantee you are walking the right path and meeting all the angelic beings along your journey.

    The Tao is the only way, there may be countless different names for it, but it matters not. There may be different path leading to the same Tao, but we need not to re-invent new wheels along the way..

  • 1) I zero out my thought and let it happens. I do not think at all during the process, you think. 

    2) Same as above. Zero out thought and let it happens.

    3) I do not say I am a dragon in any past life, can you prove yourself to me dragon existed as a physical being on earth before?

    4) There are a lot of dragons out there and they are not physical. Do you know what is spiritual body? Have you been able to see my spiritual body?

    5) Everyone has their astral form, and it can be non-human.

    6) Many masters have said about let go of yourself. For example, LaoTzu said water is strongest that anything because it is weak, water can penetrate a stone but it never gets injured, metal can break stone but it is damaged by stone too.

    I think you really need to redo your knowledge on spirituality. I do not see how your logic can fit in a big picture. What you are trying to tell me in fragile and fragmented piece of believe. If quantum hypnosis has happened two century ago, Dolores Cannon would have been taken down by public by the reason of "entity possession". 

    The fact is, "entity possession" has been used in many ways to turn down many spirituality. 

    My answer to your questions can be simplified: "I simply do not and will never accept anything that try to distort one's good intention". That is your problem, and I can you one thing, listen, this is not just me telling you this, it is from the very long time ago ever since human's consciousness have been dropped, humans have been doing this onto many other spirituality on earth turning the poor people who have good will like us down. "We" have been turned down by your kind and it has to be stopped now.

    I know myself doing this for positivity, you want to believe me as negativity that is your problem.

    I have been experienced with many people who is like your kind, wanting to turn down other's good intention. So, I am deeply sincere for those who has been experiencing this nowadays and I like to help this poor people from this kind of nonsense judgement.

    God give you intelligent for you to help people, not to judge and turn down people who have good wills. Please rethink yourself.

    Thank you for your concern.

    PyrianB said:

    I think what you are doing or thinking could be dangerous.

    Firstly, how can you be so sure the *dragon* you imagine is not of an external source that is trying to communicate with you? It may seems like your inner chatter at first, but as you get into it more, I think you are attracting some beings to talk to you. The people with third-eye opened sometimes see people talking with themselves are actually talking with ghosts nearby them, and they think they are just talking with themselves.

    Secondly, the way I see it, you are trying to create a thoughtform. At first, it could be lifeless, the more you believe it to be real, you channel more of your energy into completing it as a standalone entity (in some way).

    Thirdly, maybe you were a dragon in past life, or somehow was connected to dragons.

    Fourthly, maybe you just want to believe that you were a dragon or you want to make a dragon famillar.

    Fifthly, you are actually communicate with a dragon in its astral form.

    Well, they are all my conjectures, it could be several of them holds true to you at the same time or none of them.

    Speaking of Kriya Yoga, when you let go of yourself, actually you lower the strength of your defensive auras or whatever you might term them, it is just like open up the gate and invite the passer-by in. The way I understand it, we need some sort of divine protection before undergoing any sort of the practice.

    I think you need a true guru to guide you, who can really see what is happening around or inside you. Otherwise, I think you are quite prone to possession or any other form of harm they may inflict upon you, especially when you think you only talk with your inner selves/HS or etc.

  • I think what you are doing or thinking could be dangerous.

    Firstly, how can you be so sure the *dragon* you imagine is not of an external source that is trying to communicate with you? It may seems like your inner chatter at first, but as you get into it more, I think you are attracting some beings to talk to you. The people with third-eye opened sometimes see people talking with themselves are actually talking with ghosts nearby them, and they think they are just talking with themselves.

    Secondly, the way I see it, you are trying to create a thoughtform. At first, it could be lifeless, the more you believe it to be real, you channel more of your energy into completing it as a standalone entity (in some way).

    Thirdly, maybe you were a dragon in past life, or somehow was connected to dragons.

    Fourthly, maybe you just want to believe that you were a dragon or you want to make a dragon famillar.

    Fifthly, you are actually communicate with a dragon in its astral form.

    Well, they are all my conjectures, it could be several of them holds true to you at the same time or none of them.

    Speaking of Kriya Yoga, when you let go of yourself, actually you lower the strength of your defensive auras or whatever you might term them, it is just like open up the gate and invite the passer-by in. The way I understand it, we need some sort of divine protection before undergoing any sort of the practice.

    I think you need a true guru to guide you, who can really see what is happening around or inside you. Otherwise, I think you are quite prone to possession or any other form of harm they may inflict upon you, especially when you think you only talk with your inner selves/HS or etc.

  • It is not that direct yes and no question answer, more intuition is needed and limited to what I can know. He can if I want to, he can also deny me on some of my thoughts. Much like self-talk process.

    http://www.positiveperformancetraining.com/the-truth-about-positive...

    "We" are lazy talking about theory, mostly because without practice everything will not worked. 

    Besides from meditation, kriya yoga can work as grounding practice, this is more familiar in spontaneous qigong, where it is to start with standing pose and let the body do spontaneous taichi. The books about this is lacking in english translation... Many practitioner involves themselves on walking in the circles, kind of like phenomenal and it is said that this is to create energy vortex. Think about spiritual dance where energy is being worked out for healing purpose. Reports about doing this kind of spontaneous grounding have resulting prana or qi sensation in body and this seems to be better when doing it at natural environment where the body can have better energy to work with. One you are familiar with many kinds of spontaneous movements you will start to understand your imaginary self, your imaginary body and behaviours. Like the case of mine, a dragon.

    I hardly see this process more towards on merging or kundalini... it is more like working with energy. At the very beginning when I was channelling, my body did a lot of (imagery) vomiting and pulling stuff out from my body. There was a few processes where I feel like there were seals like sealing my three pairs of wings, three pairs of horns and three pairs of tail's bone, a pair of long fangs, long whiskers, snout, tail... There were a lot of like I got spiritual/imagery clothings, cape, rings, hat, books, etc. I did a lot of signings, bow downs praying, drawings, speakings, etc. 

    To me, there are three main  types of spiritual practices: Stand grounding (channelling), astral projection (telepathy) and meditation (channelling+telepathy). I do astral projection and meditation for the most because I cannot find a good place to do stand grounding plus my room is too small. I can see many westerners are working with meditation and astral projection but less with stand-grounding. Kundalini is seemingly about meditation. To me these three have to be balanced in order to get the whole thing. You keep switching your spiritual practices on standing, sleeping and sitting poses give you more and more subtle experiences and new ideas are growing in you to do what do next. 

  • Interesting.  While I am thinking about kundalini, it is said through the kundalini awakening by Mel Brand that the "higher self" is making a place to merge with the physical body. 

    Does your "he" give you information about the future?  Just curious.

  • "He" doesn't like the term Higher-self, me don't like HS either, lol (as we can talk to each other instantly). Yes he accepts the term higher-self, but if you look carefully in my article, I do state that high, higher and highest have different meanings, My calculation is that "High"-Self more appropriate than "Higher"-Self. Anyway, let just use HS.

    The one you said, Dolores Cannon says it doesn't care what the name you put to it... which is not the case of mine here now. My HS is limited to my body and brain, not at all the kind of hypnotic trance, no psychic. I know what you said, but not with this case.

    My HS is really just an imagery self. It is created within my own imaginable imagination, yet it has its own imagery mind and body. When I talk to him, I need to imagine our conversation first, then I feel what he chooses as his own conversation, he cannot create his own. He is a total passive existence. The very beginning when he talked to me, I was very anxious if he can be helpful. Now, I couldn't even imagine if I live without him. he has giving me a lot of supports in my life. To repay him, I am dedicated to meditate everyday.

    I only have energy flush when I asleep, I have no idea why I was like that.

    There was once my body was acting really strange after my meditation. I did not try move by body at all, by just thinking about it and my body moved without any of my force, like my thought came first and later my body moved, like me and my HS switched place.

    I have been following my HS guidance to meditate, this is what keeps me move forward.

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