The Organic Elite Surrender to Monsanto, what now?

Kim B February 9, 2011 at 7:39pm

That is weird, Teresa!

Teresa C said:

I can relate to that too Kim. I live near Lake Oroville, a dammed lake that is piped all the way to Southern Ca several hundreds of miles away. That water is used for major developments and the LA area. It comes from the West branch of the Feather River, the snow melt in the Sierras. We here in this area also get our water from branches of the Feather River. However our lakes are local. No reason for them to drop suddenly as we are not supplying developments. They installed some new pipe lines from the local dam a few years back. They also installed tighter security around the water plant. This was for a dam that is for a town of 28,000 people. Locals heard the underground tunneling. Some were turned around by men in chamo 4 wheeling in nearby waaterways.

We have very good reason to believe that our water is being diverted elsewhere. People talk here. People here are also UFO experiencers and very wise in the matters of the secret Government.
One could make a pretty good movie with the experiences that people have had up here.

Now we have the presense of retired Naval personnel moving in a town that was virtually a ghost town from the lumber days about 10 miles north with a newly paved road that was a 4 wheel drive. I'm keeping my eyes wide open.
Kim B said:

Around here the streams, rivers and creeks do not run at the level they ran back in the 80's as more and more and more are taken from there to supply these many, many large subdivisions of homes and new golf courses that have sprung up in the area over the past 25 years. Now the townships in our county (and surrounding counties) are doing their best to slow down developments of these size due to the fact there is no longer enough water to sustain such humongous housing developments (I know of two huge subdivisions pending near me and there will be a fight to stop the one as it's just too big for the water resources). The hardest part is fighting against these corporations that have tons of $$$$$$$$$ backing them.

Teresa C said:

I read that too Keith. It's getting so absurd. Most people around here collect rainwater and use it in their gardens. They have the attitude "try and stop us". I guess if everyone decides to do it anyway, what are they going to do about it.

I have watched the reservoir lakes around here for years. The last five years they will fill up after heavy rains and snows and within weeks the levels will drop down quickley then remain at that same level for months all through summer. Many believe that they are being "topped off" for underground bunkers. There is nor reasonable explanation why there would be such a sudden drop when there is no sudden need for substantial amounts of water say for irrigation or other projects.

Then they tell us to conserve for them???? No way.

Keith Haesemeyer said:

Water, I have read, also to be illegal for storing. For example, storing rainwater from runoff of your roof. Not sure if it is in the same S510 Bill, but maybe. You would have no rights to water either.

Buckworth Jackson February 9, 2011 at 5:26pm

The 'elites' know the world will lose most of it's top soil as a result of the high (600 MPH) wind that will cover the earth after the impact. They are more concerned that the 'public' will pull them to pieces when they find there is not enough food for the peons.

Folks, lay in everything you can now.

desertrose February 9, 2011 at 5:04am

USDA Allows GMO Sugar Beet Planting Even After a Landmark Court Decision Says No

Published on 02-08-201

http://www.blacklistednews.com/index.php?news_id=12613

Source: Planet Green

In the past few months it has seemed, maybe if only a little bit, that the USDA had begun to see the danger in GMO seeds. Though in the end GMO alfalfa was approved, Tom Vilsack had this to say about it:

"We have an obligation to carefully consider...the potential of cross-fertilization to non-GE alfalfa from GE alfalfa—a significant concern for farmers who produce for non-GE markets at home and abroad."

And then in December, a federal judge ordered that 258 very important acres of genetically modified sugar beets be des.... Judge Jeffrey White ruled that the crops be destroyed because the risk of gene contamination in Oregon's Willamette Valley was so great. This was a step in the right direction no matter how small the step.

According to Reuters, the USDA has said it would take at least two years to develop new regulations in response to the overall ban issued last month by U.S. District Court Judge White.

Read Full Article

desertrose February 9, 2011 at 5:02am

Big Win for Biotech: USDA Deregulates Monsanto Alfalfa

Published on 02-08-2011

Source: Truth Out - Mike Ludwig

After nearly five years of legal and regulatory battles, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) has fully deregulated Monsanto's Roundup Ready alfalfa that is genetically modified (GM) to be resistant to Roundup herbicide.

The decision squashed a proposed compromise between the biotech industry and its opponents that would have placed geographic restrictions on Roundup Ready alfalfa to prevent organic and traditional alfalfa from being contaminated by herbicide sprays and transgenes spread by cross-pollination and other factors.

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack announced that Roundup Ready alfalfa would be fully deregulated on January 27, just one week after he testified before the House Committee on Agriculture, where committee members pressed Vilsack to fully deregulate Roundup Ready alfalfa and reject the proposal to geographically isolate it from traditional alfalfa.

"I am pleased that USDA used sound science and respected the limit of its statutory authority to make this decision," said committee Chairman Frank Lucas (R-Oklahoma) after learning that Roundup Ready alfalfa would be fully deregulated.

Monsanto was one of the top contributors to Lucas's campaign committee in 2010. A political action committee and individuals associated with Monsanto donated $11,000 to his campaign last year, and Lucas has received $1,247,844 from the agribusiness industry during his political career, according to watchdog site www.opensecrets.org.

Lucas was elected chairman of the Agriculture Committee in December.

Opponents of biotech crops disagree with Lucas and claim the USDA did not use sound science to evaluate the potential impacts of GM alfalfa and, instead, catered to the interests of private industry.

"USDA has become a rogue agency in its regulation of biotech crops and its decision to appease the few companies who seek to benefit from this technology comes despite increasing evidence that GE alfalfa will threaten the rights of farmers and consumers, as well as damage the environment," said Andrew Kimbrell, executive director for the Center for Food Safety (CFS).

A CFS spokesperson told Truthout that the CFS is currently planning another legal challenge to Roundup Ready alfalfa.

The USDA first approved Roundup Ready alfalfa in 2005, but in 2007, a federal court in California placed a temporary ban on the alfalfa after the CFS and a coalition of farmers and environmental groups sued the USDA over concerns that the alfalfa could threaten non-GM alfalfa crops.

read full story here:

Buckworth Jackson January 31, 2011 at 10:40pm

"just a bit harsh?"Obama is just one man? PLEASE, Tom Vilsack holds his job by : " pleasing Obama,read the US Constitution!

Alex Cortes said:

Laying blame at the doorstep of one man regarding this topic is a bit harsh, it took many many people to make this happen and nothing good will come of it. Don't lose those seed stocks.......

Kim B January 31, 2011 at 11:09am

Around here the streams, rivers and creeks do not run at the level they ran back in the 80's as more and more and more are taken from there to supply these many, many large subdivisions of homes and new golf courses that have sprung up in the area over the past 25 years. Now the townships in our county (and surrounding counties) are doing their best to slow down developments of these size due to the fact there is no longer enough water to sustain such humongous housing developments (I know of two huge subdivisions pending near me and there will be a fight to stop the one as it's just too big for the water resources). The hardest part is fighting against these corporations that have tons of $$$$$$$$$ backing them.

Teresa C said:

I read that too Keith. It's getting so absurd. Most people around here collect rainwater and use it in their gardens. They have the attitude "try and stop us". I guess if everyone decides to do it anyway, what are they going to do about it.

I have watched the reservoir lakes around here for years. The last five years they will fill up after heavy rains and snows and within weeks the levels will drop down quickley then remain at that same level for months all through summer. Many believe that they are being "topped off" for underground bunkers. There is nor reasonable explanation why there would be such a sudden drop when there is no sudden need for substantial amounts of water say for irrigation or other projects.

Then they tell us to conserve for them???? No way.

Keith Haesemeyer said:

Water, I have read, also to be illegal for storing. For example, storing rainwater from runoff of your roof. Not sure if it is in the same S510 Bill, but maybe. You would have no rights to water either.

Buckworth Jackson January 30, 2011 at 12:11pm

Bingo! This old detective always says; Follow The Money (FTM) always!

The Shadow said:

Companies like Whole Foods Market are just huge corporations taking advantage of those who want to eat healthier by charging huge markups. They certainly don't speak for the progressives who buy their food.

desertrose January 30, 2011 at 12:29am

To control cross pollination the heirloom seeds would have to be grown in greenhouses and hand pollinated . Otherwise one would require ones own bees for personal use. I suppose starting a beehive for ones honey needs if one has a large enough greenhouse would not be out of the question.

James Lingren said:

Because of cross pollination, you can't stop it :^(

Kim B said:
Well, if Monsanto gains total control of seed, then we will have to start growing and trading organic heirloom seed. :D They can't stop it completely.

desertrose January 30, 2011 at 12:26am

Sadly the congress and the Senate have just passed the S510 bill. Called the Food Safety Bill. It delves into organic farms and the new regulations they will be held under. The larger they are t he more regulated they will be. However, people who were working to keep this bill form being passed say that the verbiage is so vague that if they want to they can certainly apply it to personal gardens on personal property. Even in community gardens where no one is charged but simply trade amongst themselves. The guise will be food safety and unregulated food supplies to shut them down. Community Co-Ops have already been shut down and others targeted, even before the bill was passed. It is only a matter of time .

Kim B said:

Well, if Monsanto gains total control of seed, then we will have to start growing and trading organic heirloom seed. :D They can't stop it completely.

Buckworth Jackson January 29, 2011 at 3:53pm

Because of cross pollination, you can't stop it :^(

Kim B said:

Well, if Monsanto gains total control of seed, then we will have to start growing and trading organic heirloom seed. :D They can't stop it completely.

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