Birther’ Mentality Supports ‘Duck and Cover’
The moral of this story is contained within 2 Questions; 1) Is there any limit to greed? and
2) Is there any limit to ‘dumb’?
I got this email, yesterday. I decided to post my reply, on line; since, it has been ‘front and center’, leading the ‘let’s be dumb’ attack against the ‘triangle of life’ This email is from a USA teacher who is ‘under attack’ for supporting the triangle of life.
Here is the email text in italics as I respond to the details:
****Hi Doug,
We spoke about 1 1/2-2 yrs. ago. I have brought your triangle issue up again at my district Health/Safety committee for our school district. The one question that still comes up from the engineer for the district is that this only happens in third world countries, not North America.
****This guy states that he is an engineer.
Reply:
A Sanitation Engineer?(Garbageman) A janitorial Engineer?(Janitor) The Official Organization for the Structural Engineering Association came out with a Headline Article supporting the ‘triangle of life’. I have a copy. In the next issue, after political and financial issues, came into play..there was a complete reversal. It is a matter of money (contracts) and self -interest not morality or integrity.
Go to my website and you will see pictures/video of myself, inside of the ‘rubble of earthquake collapsed buildings’ in Oakland, San Francisco,Santa Cruz and Northridge.
Inside of explosion caused collapsed buildings in Oklahoma City and New York City.
Other structural failures happen, on a regular basis. I was in the rubble of a silo explosion in Illinois and an Apartment Building in New York City.
There is NO way that you can rationalize with a ‘birther’ mentality. This guy’s job description is to keep costs down, for his employer. It is ‘cheaper and less trouble’ for him to claim that USA buildings don’t collapse. If he admits that the buildings will collapse then people will want his employer’s to spend more money to make the buildings safer. People will complain. People will ask:” Why have you lied to us for so long?”
I want to ask him to guarantee that USA Building s won’t collapse. Why NOT? Your life is at stake if you believe him.
Think Tobacco Companies. The tobacco Companies had no trouble, for years, finding Medical Doctors who would argue that nicotine is NOT addictive and cigarettes don’t cause cancer.
This ‘engineer’ is exactly the same.
******He states lighting fixtures and things hanging will drop but the roofs will not cave in.
Reply:
I have pictures of the ceilings down and laying on top of the rows of desks. It is very unusual for fixtures to fall off a ceiling. He would know that if he ever actually saw a collapsed building; however, he claims that USA buildings don’t collapse…so, I gather that means that he has never seen a collapsed building..Unless using his logic that he knows what happens to the roofs, ceilings, light fixtures etc..when buildings collapse..although buildings don’t collapse????
******That is why we are to duck and cover.
Reply:
People are told to do ‘duck and cover’ because it would be embarassing, humiliating and costly for him to, now, admit that he was just ‘making it all up.’
***** Do you have any pertinent information to support the idea of roofs caving in in North America?
Reply:
Of course, pictures, video, scientific tests..all the things that don’t matter to ‘duck and cover’/'birther’ mentalities..like reality, proof, evidence, facts.
******* I’m not an engineer (have thought about talking to the engineering program at UBC to see if they have any info) but thought I would ask you first.
I would rather be proactive than reactive after an incident. Do not want to say I told you so. I have a heck of a time doing drills with students…as I’m going against what they state we must do…I crouch beside my desk.
Reply:
Yes, and there are many private and public schools, in the USA; Japan, China and other countries who are doing ‘triangle of Life’ drills. Understand, that Schools for the ‘elite’, the rich and powerful will NOT allow ‘a-holes’ like this ‘birther’ type to endanger their children’s lives. It is common that the rich, powerful, most educated and most intelligent are the first to progress. The disenfranchised, ‘non-elite’, poor and ‘unimportant’ are always the last, to benefit.
********* I need your help figuring out the roof issue…Thank you, XXX XXXXXX
Reply:
Some other issues:
1) Many schools are built directly upon earthquake faults because ‘corporations’ wouldn’t build on it; therefore, it was cheap…so, the Government used it for schools.
2) I have personally crawled inside of 200+ collapsed building..like Kobe, Japan that were equal to or superior to, the very ‘best’ USA Buildings.
3) USA Buildings used to be stronger than most countries. That is no longer true. The USA has been ‘poor’ for too long; while other countries, have prospered greatly.
4) Anything that can be built, by man, is eventually destroyed by nature.
5) All USA buildings are not modern-high tech up to the minute code. USA Buildings are of all types..built to prevalent codes over history. only 2% or less are high tech.
6) When people, in other countries, hear that USA officials tell their people that they do NOT have earthquakes and that USA Building do NOT collapse. They laugh and tell me that I can’t be serious..followed by…incredulous gesticulations. It really is an insult to people’s intelligence.
But try to prove, with facts, to a ‘birther’ that Obama was born, in the USA…they get violent..they go ballistic…it is impossible. They don’t want facts..they want ‘dumb’.
Here is an excerpt of an email that I replied to 2 ‘earthquake Experts’ who attacked me. They are both paid as DM ‘consultants’ for business. One is a landscape architect and the other seems to have been a soldier.
My email:
I am ‘rocking the boat of the status quo” so…. of course there are responses/attacks like this.
But think about this: AS YOU SAY… THAT YOU LEARNED SO MUCH >>>While you were hiding under the BIG OAK DESK ….during the ‘moderate’ Loma Prieta Earthquake (SF 1989) Extremely moderate to me ..but NOT to the people who died when their buildings crushed them.
While, you were hiding, under your big oak desk(as you describe, in an area far away from the earthquake destruction); I was crawling under the Loma Prieta Rubble. Let’s not be foolish….Who do you think knows more about that earthquake. You or me?
Let’s dig deeper: If you were where I was..then you would know that the only ultimate survivor of the Nimitz Freeway Collapse; during this earthquake,was a little boy who was trapped, next to his dead mother, in a car.
It was necessary; for his dead mother, to be cut into pieces, to create, enough room to extract him/pull him out. He survived because he was ‘little’ and only needed a ‘little’ survival space. His mother was ‘bigger’. She needed a larger survivable void ”like a triangle of life..to avoid being crushed.
Loma Prieta..That was one ‘bad thing’ that was not currently present , in my mind. I am sorry that you reminded me of that.
Next to the vehicles were ‘ triangles of life’ or survivable voids. How can I say such a thing?
How can I prove the triangle of life?…………………….because people have eyes, to see for themselves and only a tiny bit of common sense is required.
because I have video and The Inside Edition TV Show ( one of the longest running and most distributed TV Programs, in the world. I have appeared on it many times.) made a TV program of myself under the rubble. Bill O’ Reily, currently of old ‘red meat’ and ‘redneck’ Fox Fame..interviews me in one of the TV Programs. Look in my youtube videos. I have about 600 hours of footage that would blow your mind (only 120 hours online.).
YOU SHOULD KNOW THIS: ALL OF THE VICTIMS WHO STAYED IN THE LINE OF GRAVITATIONAL FORCE..OF THE NIMITZ FREEWAY COLLAPSE WERE KILLED ! This is precisely the same as ‘duck and cover.’ EXCEPT FOR THE LITTLE BOY, IN THE NIGHTMARE.
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ALL OF THE VICTIMS, WHO DIED WOULD HAVE SURVIVED IF THEY FOLLOWED MY PROGRAM..AS HAS BEEN EXPLAINED WITH TEXT, PHOTOS, VIDEO AND ETC AT WWW.AMERRESCUE.ORG . The material has been there for years.I made it so simple to understand so that little kids good ‘get it’.
email 2)
Doug Copp • As someone who has ACTUALLY crawled inside of 896 collapsed buildings; including, 200 PLUS ultra modern skyscrapers of the most sophisticated technology ..in the USA, Japan, Taiwan and many other places.
I can tell you that this is pure BS, that buildings don’t collapse, in the USA. It is NOT true.
By the way, my background before, rescue was working at Demolition. This included skyscrapers, implosions ..all the stuff you see on TV…in fact I was the California license holder for a Nationwide Contractor. I was asked to take the license holder exam; because, only 1 person out of every hundred passes this very difficult exam. I understand structures as an expert who has instructed, directed and lectured to an entire University of Engineering Stuents and professors. This is one of the reasons why I was able to survive 896 collapsed buildings when OSHA has statistically determined that 60% of rescuers are killed every entry/collapse. You can see, for yourself, at my website…and by the way..the scientific test that we did, in Turkey was in a typical North American solid ( not hollow tile or tilted up) concrete and rebar building.
You can go to my blog, my website www.amerrescue.org , or my 2 youtube channels: amerrescue and amerrescuegmail ans see actual video of me inside of these extremely sophisticated collapsed buildings..all over the world.
Years ago, the ‘triangle of life’ was attacked by stating that the USA doesn’t have earthquakes, then the BS was “buildings in the USA don’t collapse’ then the American Red Cross came out and stated that the ‘triangle of Life’ was appropriate in other countries but NOT the USA ( where they collect their donations and don’t want to rock the boat with USA Insurance Companies who consider it cheaper and less trouble if people die immediately from ‘duck and cover; rather than, survive and seek compensation.)
I encourage everyone to get the facts, determine the truth, think for yourself and of course go to my website and SEE WITH YOUR OWN EYES).
I have stood in 3 cities without a single building left standing. There is NOTHING, IN THIS WORLD; THAT CANNOT BE DESTROYED BY NATURE, IN SECONDS. I have seen things that you can barely imagine.
Understand this, unless you have a Quake Alarm device; then you will have no more than 5 to 10 seconds, after you begin to feel an earthquake …to react.
If it turns out to be a giant earthquake, then possibly every building, in your area will collapse. If you ‘duck and cover’ then you will most likely be crushed to 1/4 inch thick.
If it is a moderate earthquake then only a few buildings will collapse
if you ‘duck and cover’ you might survive, if your building doesn’t collapse/if it is a tiny earthquake then you may get a bruise from a falling book.
The question is; Do you risk being crushed to 1/4 inch thick with a puddle of blood oozing out..by doing ‘duck and cover’? I kept my blood soaked shirts…or do you risk a potential bruise?..by doing the ‘triangle of life’?
More importantly, How long will these ‘experts’ continue to tell people that earthquakes don’t happen, in the USA and buildings don’t collapse, in the USA?
I have concluded that they will continue to spout nonsense until people tell them to ‘shut up.’
doug copp
PS The answer to the 2 leading questions is ‘NO’. There is NO limit to ‘greed’ and there is NO limit to ‘dumb’.
be sure to go to other blog articles for supporting videos, pictures, docs and links ( hundreds) I recommend:
1) Triangle of Life. I had a nightmare, last night.
2) San Francisco Earthquake: The Big Lie Anniversary is Celebrated With More Deception.
3) Effective Earthquake Prediction
4) The History of Duck and Cover from a 22nd Century Perspective
5) Triangle of Life, NZ Radio interview with Doug Copp
6) The Triangle of Life Continues Spreading Around the World
7) Doug Copp in Time Magazine. United Nations Sends Triangle to Latin America
Desert Star Article Doug Copp Survival Tips Part 2
9) Newspaper Report of Doug Copp’s Survival Tips (part 1)
10) Doug Copp Blog
11) Earthquake Turkey, Oct 2011,The Triangle of Life has Saved Lives Today. More Survivors Using The Triangle of Life Continue To Be Rescued. 1 Million People Trained by Aksigorta Insurance Company / AKUT To Use The Triangle of Life
Comments
Dear Charlane:
Actually , I can give you examples of circumstances when the 'calm ones' duck and covered and were crushed..and the hysterical ones got knocked to the floor and survived because they eventually got rolled around into a triangle of life.
First ime I saw it was 1986 in El salvador.
The thing about your theory that keeps it from being taught widespread is... most peops really are not smart enough to calmly & quickly analyze their surroundings during an Event. Panic's adrenalin trumps common sense 90% of the time.
The beauty is the Triangles. Imagine that...triangles being important in the story of Earth. Geometry is wonderful.
Dear Susan:
good for you.
Here is the text of an email I sent to a teacher who is doing the triangle of life, in her school and a student, at a school where they all do the triangle of life.
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Let me know how I can help.
doug copp
Yep most people in my area buy the duck and cover crap. I have taught my daughter the triangle of life.
As to my first earthquake experience (the virginia quake), I was out of my house in less than 6 seconds. Most of my neighbors and other people working in old buildings in town sat through the whole thing in their homes (and businesses). If it were a really large quake, they would have been trapped (or squished).