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It seems that the White House is no longer the people's anymore! I made sure to grab the governments copy of the bill so there would be no misleading. :) Thoughts anyone?
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the only reason we have these bills is because someone in a dark room with an equally dark mind wanted them and they are not merely some fancy words so someone can show of their command of English,!!!!! they are designed to be used and in that case someone must have envisioned a case where they will be used. . they are as much a part of the security apparatus as the patriot act , one thing reinforces the other. you cannot one thing in isolation from the rest. If someone as distinguished as Paul Craig Roberts, not t your run if the mill militia man, if he can get worked up about these bills, then we must start worrying, they are not fantasy. Nor is our concern a fantasy.
Well said Tammy.
OK Alex, go demonstrate against something that you really believe in outside the doors of City Hall in Chicago. See if they enforce the law.
In as much as I see your point of view Alex I think you're being too narrow in your focus. I know you'll blast me and I'm a big girl I can take it. :)
If you think that these bills were written just to put words on paper I feel sorry for you. Take all these bills and let's just say for arguments sake they are put into action. What will you do then? It is not okay to arrest peaceful protesters. The first amendment states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The President takes an oath that is as follows:
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
With these bills he and our representatives have failed to up hold the very Constitution they swore to protect.
In this time when all the bills that are being passed seem to have nothing to do with helping our economy but are designed to only suppress our freedom. Alex you need to close the government manual you are reading and join with the american people to fight the Faciast government that has taken over our country and even take you and your family to a Fema camp. There are no free tickets to this upcoming event and few survivors. How anyone can think that this is a free country is beyond belief. I know you have a job to do, but it is time to come to the reality that even you are cannon fodder like the rest of us and need to join and defeat the depopulation of this planet and once great country. I can not believe at this point that anyone who can not see it must be on the wrong team.
I do not see NDAA as the end of the world, I do not see SOPA as the end of the world. Honestly speaking just because its written does not mean it will ever be enforced, of the hundreds of thousands of laws that appear on the books across this nation only a fraction are ever enforced. If we were to take a fine tooth comb to each and every word that appears in our legal documents, we would discover that a lot of the laws out there are extraneous and outright ridiculous and unenforced. Do you realize it is illegal to walk your giraffe down the street in Chicago. On the books, seriously. Or that it is illegal to spit on the sidewalk in Chicago. Done that a few million times in my life with 0 fines....
People I am not ignoring the scope of what is being enacted yet it is being enacted by our government who got voted into office by we the people. So if there is truly an issue with a law that affects you take it before the court, that's the purpose of courts. If I felt that it would have any impact on me whatsoever, I would probably be screaming from the rafters but from what I have read, I do not see it as a way to circumvent the constitution nor as a way to subjugate the people, there are more than enough laws on the books that allow for that reality without the need of NDAA, just more words to paper in my opinion but it seems that whenever I have this opinion I am in someway failing to live by the spirit of descent.... Sorry but I think that at times we are trying to fix a dam that is about to break with our finger and we honestly believe that our finger will work.....
I think the problem we seem to be seeing is the totality if it all, taking thus bill in the same context of the NDAA Provision, instead of simply looking at this bill in isolation see it in terms of all the other police state measures. I am too tired to go any further but hope to do some reading on all this in the morning.
(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area; Not sure how this is different from what currently exist.(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds; Holds true before ever reading this document, not sure how this is a problem.(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; Personally I like the idea that visiting diplomats are being giving the same rights where they may be staying.(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance; The G8 summits will be held in Chicago within the next few weeks. The laws here have already been tampered with simply in preparation for this event. And what is currently active at the state level bugs me significant more than what is listed here.‘‘(2) the term ‘other person protected by the Secret Service means any person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined such protection. Still don't see any difference from what currently is in place nor how it would affect anyone negatively.
Juts save a copy, many thanks. another way of tying people down, I a sure there is some big earthchanging event that will take down society, and these security measures are ways of keeping people under control. Our turn will come at the Olympics, it will give them many precedents for bring my own country under more control, where you go we follow and vice versa.
It was passed in the House today. FYI, Rick Santorum is now guarded by the Secret Service by request.
Alex, I see your point. But how about this:
‘‘(1) the term ‘restricted buildings or grounds’ means any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area— ‘‘(A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President’s official residence or its grounds; ‘‘(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or ‘‘(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance; and ‘‘(2) the term ‘other person protected by the Secret Service’ means any person whom the United States Secret Service is authorized to protect under section 3056 of this title or by Presidential memorandum, when such person has not declined such protection.
Now, you may ask, "Doesn't the Secret Service only protect the President?".
Who is the Secret Service authorized to protect?
By law, the Secret Service is authorized to protect:
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