Comet Elenin -- "Six Months After Opening" by Leonid Elenin

[Cheryl Nelson]

Paul K had trouble with the link, so I helped him and ran it through Google translate.  This is a rough translation.  Again, the focus is squarely on Elenin, and the fact that Elenin is not a brown dwarf.  I think we've figured that out.  It's the object that looks suspiciously like a BD that's following closely behind that is the worry.  Earthchanges are not happening for no reason.  So, my take is this is a debunker piece, but it has a lot of information and I am no expert, so I leave it for you to judge...

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fspaceobs.org%2Ftag%2Fc2010-x1-elenin%2F

[Cheryl Nelson]

Major Marduk is no longer a member here.  His last post dissed Amy's images, he was argumentative and wasting a lot of our time.  He back flashed Keith, who spoke up after he challenged me.  Whether he was a disruptor or not is not known but he was definitely too high maintenance for this group.  Overqualified for the job, perhaps; more liabilities than contributions.  I don't like to suspend but this was just going to keep going around in circles, and no matter how much I tried to get him to understand he either couldn't or wouldn't.  However, bottom line, he was upsetting people here and, despite warnings, continued. 

[Cheryl Nelson]

Thanks, Alex.  It's a major factor in what's coming down.

[Alex Cortes]

Cheryl it was an unusual slow solar cycle since 2008 up until late last year early this year when the sun went fulbore into solar activity(sun spots, flares, CME and what not).  Not unheard of just rare.  But I must add that the solar flares that have been occuring this year are pretty amazing but I still think it falls within the sun's norm.....what is much more concerning to me is the impact that these flares are having on our core and magma as Major Marduk pointed out.  When magma wells up it cause portions of the earth to bulge which can increase various aspects of our tilt and rotation......I just hope we don't get hit by a flare that sets off yellowstone.....what I consider the worst case scenario when it comes to flares at this point....(have no clue if they can fry us but I guess anything is possible.)

[Cheryl Nelson]

Taxpayer dollars pay for NASA's data, thus their public information is for the public.

[msred]

Please forgive the typos and poor sentence construction in my prior post. Don't know what's gotten ahold of my laptop. Whatever it is, it's causing problems with my typing capabilities - pausing, changing cursor location, flashing bottom of page mid-sentence, inserting crazy symbols, etc.

[msred]

All knowledge is subject to change, and it can change as much as there are thinkers in number, experiences networks, interpretations to thoughts, visions, dreams, personal research, data, et al. Plus, depending on recorded and word-of-mouth history can/will sometimes mislead, and can be shadowed/over-shadowed by the the purveyor's spin. We all know this.

It doesn't appear that MM is rebuking any one person's opinion. Instead, it seems MM is trying to bring logic into the equation.

I know you don't need anyone backing you MM, but I like your style, which could get me into trouble. Sorry 'bout the personal attacks... but, I think you've handled yourself quite well.

[Alex Cortes]

Understandable. Personally I will keep my thoughts to myself and only comment if I feel I can add something of value to the conversation.  Be well and handle things in whatever manner works best for you. 

[Alex Cortes]

Major Marduk,

 

I personally appreciate your counter point view..... it does help with clearing up misunderstandings and assumptions.  We all have our own way of sharing information, I guess I am just stuck on the symantics. 

 

For example when you said that when you see that something is not right.....unless someone proves the contrary, I make my comment.  Straight forward no nonsense comment but keep in mind that it begins with when you see that something is not right.....according to who.....it may just be a difference of perspective as opposed to a misunderstanding of the science.  I try hard to avoid someone is out right wrong or I end my statements with, "just my opinion."  So that its not taken to heart by the person I may perceive as incorrect....

[Cosmos]

@Major marduk U seriously believe whatever that Elenin guy said? I seriosuly did not get what you explained for increase in earth changes since i am not that good at science. But do you seriosuly trust Americal Astronomical society? the very people who are in race to trick us? is it a coincidence that solar activity is maximum and geological activity is escalating in 2011? why is the earth changes escalating from 2004 and has reached maximum 2011? there should be something. if u blame it on the sun,there should be something which is responsible for the sun to act in this way also...what is it?? 

And also refer to images which morris posted in below post

https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=6126809%3ABlogPo...

what is it which highlights only in infrared view??? please answer this...THERE IS ONLY 2 OR 3 IMAGES..so please dont know give excuse of  "I really don't know which one is the one you referring to"..please answer this one atleast if you dont care to answer others...

[Alex Cortes]

Major Marduk,

 

Quick question....is all science that is currently in print accurate? 

 

I personally feel that its the best that we have and very plausibly inaccurate.  Especially when referring to the sun or any other celestial body. 

 

All the information we have gathered to date is through observations that range back a few thousand years with accuracy improving over the last hundred years or so.  Our written history truly doesn't go that far back and just about all knowledge that is currently held regarding the distant past comes from inferences and speculation. 

 

Don't get me wrong, I agree with a lot of what you have to say, such as geomagnetic disturbances, heating of the magma beneath our feet and a slew of other details that come from what you said.  But it seems that method of presentation matters as much as material.

 

Almost everyone here understands the concept of earth's tilt but what we are speculating on is the fact that through observations we have noticed that it is deviating beyond the normal drift of the magnetic pole(well what we consider normal considering our limited time observing it). 

 

We all have our opinions here and sometimes they go against the grain of science which is fine and dandy but you should not rebuke someone's opinion simply because it doesn't fit into our current understanding of accurate science.

 

The sun is a mystery to us and what lies beyond our solar system is virtually unknown. 

 

The earth tilt is an observable occurrence and changes are easily gauged, what is difficult to grasp are the causes(which to me(personal opinion)makes little difference considering the scale).  I tend to be much more concerned with the impact of these changes, as opposed to the cause.  

 

The earths tilt has shifted and not in a minute way, it may have been the earthquakes,Planet x, the sun going through a magnetic shift, erratic spinning of our core, magma welling up or a plethora of other possibilities....we know a change has happened and are on alert for a more severe shift, being in the know will help when this time comes, possibly the main reason most of us are on this site......for a little warning......which may or may not help. 

 

Guess I am just asking that you be a little less rigid when posing a counter view on a particular topic.  Your opinion is valued just try not to step on the opinions of others as you present it.

 

Just my thoughts.