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  • nicholas fowler November 8, 2011 at 1:18am

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    .very very interesting Video, msred. just watching it, it is of great interest , very  much appreciated.now to finish watching it....

  • nicholas fowler November 8, 2011 at 1:01am

    sorry to sound off like this. I have not seen the video yet. I will this morning.

    I react to the ideas, how we limit our minds to one set of beliefs, I refer to the generality of people. I fire with both barrels sometimes which is one of my faults, so I will desist in future. In Bangor wales we see women going about wearing black tents, I know they are muslim many wear headscarfs. surely a God who has created great beauty in women does not ask us to hide this? and any lust is entirley in the minds if men is'nt it? so, maybe men should be forced to wear blinkers all the time in the presence of beautiful women? we are free, these people are'nt.  the same applies in similar ways anywhere where the human spirit is forced down by some belief system the beliefs are man made, the spirit eternal.

    so, I will desist in future just say I am geting cranky in my late fifties thats all!!!

    I will watch your video with great interest and say no more. sorry to trouble you all.

  • msred November 8, 2011 at 12:42am

    We so often let "religion; religious" get in the way. Step outside of religion/religious, please.

    Our terms are NOT about that. As humans, we all have our messiahs, whether named or not. We will reach to 'someone/thing' (thing could be spirit in a bottle).

    This was not posted as a 'religious' video. It was posted as a timer. Yet one more prophecy, if you will.

    Nich, no problem from me. My Bible thumping days are long gone.

  • nicholas fowler November 7, 2011 at 10:08am
    I agree with Tammy and your views are very close to mine very close.
  • Cheryl Nelson November 7, 2011 at 9:52am

    As a practical matter, is it not easier to get forgiven than it is to get permission?

    Anyway, this is a reminder to keep religious "stuff" in the groups.  Thanks.

  • Tammy Fielder November 7, 2011 at 9:42am

    I was raised that if you ask your higher power for help, you must try to help yourself first.  I, myself, am a Gnostic and respect many views.  My opinion is this: we are all trying to achieve the same thing, we just go about it differently. 

    And Nicholas you are right!  So  many think if they go to confession, do some prayers, then they are forgiven of that sin and start anew.  That was my whole conflict with the Catholic church and why I am Gnostic now.  :)

  • nicholas fowler November 7, 2011 at 7:54am

    if you make your own mess you have to clean it up this is why this is called teaching planet. no one is about to come along and undo the harm you have done, only you can do that. I believe this fervently, but sorry to be all preachy about it. too many go to church and expect a free ride or to a mosque or synagogue. sin today, apologize tomorrow and we all go to heaven

     

    the universe is not like that, it is impossible

  • nicholas fowler November 7, 2011 at 6:42am
    i apologize, for the post below. i should temper my views, so hope no offence has been caused and would withdraw this if i could. sorry msred.  we all have views, but should not preach them all the time.
  • nicholas fowler November 7, 2011 at 6:23am
    in my book there is no messiah, and the only person who is going to save you is you. there is absolutely no one else. instead of looking for saviors and messiahs why not do the hard work yourself and be your own savior. as yehshua said we are all gods, the kingdom of heaven is in each one of us. all we need to do is look within, and tidy our own backyard.
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