had just left the NYPD Rescue Team Captain. I told him he should be very proud of the professional and outstanding way the NYPD was responding to the crisis.
After a few minutes, Kerrick went on his way . I left Robb Verhauf to work with the NYFD. I went off to call Bill Reeves, contact Peter Donahue and continue searching for an entry hole to gain access to more underground voids as the heavy equipment continued to remove rubble and expose further access points.
**I quote Peter Donahue: “Doug instructed me to meet up with Randy Haverd’s group and liaison with them for ARTI. Meanwhile, Doug was going to a Command Center located at the site of a local school in order to obtain credentials from the FBI , and return to Ground Zero to search for live survivors. Doug called me later that night to inform me that he had received credentials and would be returning to work at Ground Zero.”
**Peter Donahue, New York City ARTI team member and Copp came to the same conclusion that Mike Holley and Dr. Elliott Pierce were Lang’s gay lovers. Lang was seen on the rubble wearing tight jeans with his crotch basket stuffed out and tiptoeing around, swinging his ass in a sexual manner while wearing a woman’s rope belt to hold up his “gay” pants
** At night I had a meeting with Randy Haverd to take Peter as a liaison and the constant fights and interferences with my rescue efforts because peter couldn’t tolerate the bad behavior of Lang’s entourage anymore.
** I worked for a couple of hours searching for entry points.
**I worked thru the night.
Sept 15
** I think this is the day that I did an interview with Inside Edition as a public service message. At my insistence and with my recommendations, the program spent half of the air time explaining what actions people can take in an attack like 911 to protect themselves and their family.
** I worked for several hours searching for entry points.
** I first started showing effects of poisoning.
Sept 16
** I worked through the entire night and had not yet slept; since, September 12th. I searched the above ground surface area for an entry point Below the Rubble.
**John Grace approached me and told me that he couldn’t take any 911 footage because he was too afraid. I told him that he should not worry and to just take care of himself.
**finally got down to collapsed subway station for the first time.
** I found a hole in the bottom of a 30 ft deep pit, in the rubble. Broken concrete, rubble, broken furniture was everywhere. It was very tricky to walk without being tripped, falling and becoming injured. Above our heads, rubble was precariously piled up. I explained to Lentz how to walk and to follow my exact foot steps. He paid strict attention and followed my every step. I explained to him to repeatedly look upward so that he would avoid anything falling and crushing him. We crossed the bottom of the pit and carefully crawled inside of a 2ft X 2ft gap in the rubble. Immediately inside, was an obstacle course of dangling electrical cables, wires and water pipes. I explained to Lentz to absolutely NOT put any pressure or force on these dangling lines. I told him to regard himself ‘like a ballet dancer’ and to be extremely graceful and avoid placing any stress on this lines or the whole thing will come down and kill him and me.
There was a slab under part of this dangling lines but the rubble was headed downwards. Lentz never took any video of any of this because it was too dangerous and we might be killed if he was distracted. (He did take video of me crossing this area when we searched it again, the next day.) We maneuvered our way through this obstacle course and came to an escalator. The escalator was not crushed but rubble had fallen across part of it. We made our way down to the area where concrete slabs had fallen across the escalator. We crawled underneath and emerged on the other side. On our right was a sign which stated: World Trade Center. The escalator emptied out on a platform area about 10 ft by 10 ft which was not broken. It was the only flat area around. We looked up in front of us and saw that the area was blocked by what appeared to be the bottom of millions of tons of rubble. Lentz took out his camera and videotaped a hand painted sign. It said: “Do NOT ENTER! UNSTABLE!”
At his point I realized that we had come to the area where CNN had reported that the search below the rubble was stopped by FEMA because it was too dangerous. I had heard a FEMA Representative tell CNN that it was too dangerous to continue in the subterranean area.
Now, I knew that I could do some real good at 911. It was incredibly dangerous but I knew that my experience searching 892 previous collapsed buildings would allow me to have the best chance of crawling inside without being crushed to death. Nevertheless, although I appeared calm and collected on the outside (as I always do so that it would give confidence and security to others who would be with me.) I was really scared. I asked myself if it was worth dying for. I answered myself silently by saying: “Yes.” It has too be searched. I thought, to myself, that there would be huge underground voids near the perimeter of the subterranean area (just like there was at many collapsed skyscrapers I had searched before.). I thought of the possibly hundreds of people who could be trapped in there. I told Lentz that I would go and explore the area and would return for him if it was safe enough for him to enter without being killed.
I got down on my knees and then I lay down on my stomach. The floor was covered with concrete dust and I was getting covered with it. I slipped under the carrying beam (It was a tight fit. The beam was flat on the floor on one aide and rose to 18 inches high There was NOT enough room to put a piece of concrete or support under the beam (like I usually would do) and still have enough room to slip underneath. I thought to myself: “This is bad. If there is any movement at all I will be crushed to liquid. I thought of all the dead people I had seen under beams who had been liquefied. …not even a 1/10th of an inch thick. I saw an image of a pool of blood, flash into my mind’s eye, which had oozed out from a victim, crushed under a beam, inside of a collapsed building, in El Salvador. Minutes later the damaged building took the final fall and completely collapsed on top of me. All in an instant, I thought about how I had miraculously escaped death. Then I told myself to ‘get my ass going’ and ‘get the hell out’ from under the beam. )
It was really dark inside and the floor ended just 8 inches from the beam. I looked up and saw huge chunks of concrete dangling from rebar and stuck in place on top of pieces of rebar about 5 to 6 ft above my head. I thought: “Holy Shit!” I looked to my left and saw that there was no void at all. The rubble was completely collapsed. I looked to my right and saw a large open space about 15 ft away. I said: “That is where I need to go.” Then I said: “How in the hell am I going to do this. The ledge is only 8 inches wide for the whole 15 ft. I looked down and saw that there was a huge pit filled with rebar. It made a sudden drop. It would be like sliding along the ledge of a skyscraper without falling and being killed. I said: “I can do it. I really need to concentrate, pull my stomach in tight and stick myself to the wall.” I crawled out from under the beam, simultaneously lifting myself up without touching any of the dangling rebar and pulling to the right, sticking myself to a column and finally I was inside and upright. I slid along the wall and got to the open area. The ceiling was good. It wasn’t broken in that area. It was very dark but I could see with the flashlight strapped on my head. I took a deep breath, relieved some stress and then I looked around in all directions to make a general inspection. I realized that this vast area could hold huge numbers of trapped people. I shouted to see if anyone could hear me. Nobody replied. I shouted to Lentz and told him that there was a vast area inside. I told him that it had to be searched. I told him that he could be useful to help me search if he came inside but it was up to him if he wanted to come in or wait for me outside. I told him NOT to go back to the bottom of the outside pit because it was too dangerous for him to do without following me. I told him that he could come inside, that he could do it easier than me because he was thinner but he couldn’t make any mistake or he would be DEAD. I emphasized the word DEAD. He said that he wanted to come inside. I told him that he had ‘a lot of guts’ and that he could do it but he had to follow my precise instructions and concentrate like he had never done before in his life. He stuck his head underneath. I lit up the area with my flashlight. I told him NOT to touch the rebar or he would cause the whole damn thing to come down and he would be liquefied. He saw the ledge and almost choked. But he did it. He got up and slithered along the ledge and jumped off the end onto the slab where I was standing. I helped to catch him, grabbed him and pulled him over with me.
I said to Lentz: Now we are in but it is ‘going to be a bitch’ to ‘get the hell out of here’.” Lentz got out his camera and filmed me as I explained to him what we needed to do, what our search plan would be, how to do it safely, how NOT to be killed. I told him: “ Do not touch anything. I will do all the touching. You walk with me and follow my footsteps like you are walking through a minefield. You walk where I walk and you go where I go. Told him if we found people trapped that he could help me move the rubble to free them but NEVER, NEVER touch anything unless I tell you to. I told him ‘to be like a breath of air’ upon the rubble. I repeated myself many times so that there would be NO mistake, and no panic. I told him about Jose Ortega who panicked and didn’t follow my instructions and almost died because of it. I told Lentz that I would always insure that he would be safe, that I always anticipated and prepared ahead of time for collapse, that I was consistently inspecting the structure. I told him that he should stand still and not move if the place started to collapse because he would already be in the place he was supposed to be in, in case of a collapse. I told him the example of a guy at the Presidential Compound in El Salvador when an aftershock took place. I told him that everyone; including, ARTI member, Jose Ortega had panicked and were running, screaming and fleeing, in all directions, except for 1 person. He was 20 ft below me and 25 ft away from me. I stood next to a rail and never moved a muscle when the earthquake after shock hit. I looked down at him. He looked straight in my eyes and almost asking: “What do I do?” I looked back at him and smiled. He leaned on his shovel, stood upright and smiled back. He realized that I would shout instructions at him if he was supposed to do anything other than stay exactly where he was.
The moral of this story to Lentz was “pay attention and follow every instruction I give you as if your life depended on it because it does”.
Lentz and I went over to the area where there had been a news stand. We searched behind it to see if it went anywhere or if there was another entry point. There was none.
Next we started walking towards the stairs at the end of the Hallway. They were about 100 ft away. We casually looked at and searched the stores along the sides of us; however, this was only a cursory search because I was mostly pre-occupied with getting to an area that would have a better chance of having people trapped.
We got to the stairs, Lentz was following behind me. We went down to the level below. It was really black, dark and soot was on everything and in everything. It was very eerie. There was a large open area where we searched all the edges. After 20 minutes of being in this place which was the darkest, blackest, scariest and most ‘evil’ (I felt like this place was the home of the devil, himself. Maybe because it was a mass murder scene; rather than, a freak disaster of nature.) I told Lentz that we should go to the floor below. This place was very sinister, which was compounded by the fact that the air was so full of soot and particulate from the smoldering fire that our flashlights disappeared at a distance of 3 feet. We were coughing and sweating.
The floor below felt like a relief. It was cooler, cleaner and had only dust and rubble like the first responders, above, had been exposed to. I stopped coughing so much and was more comfortable. The light beams from our flashlights could travel and light up an area 50 ft away. It was a lot easier to search.
As we approached the center area of this open space the noise of water falling was too loud to speak without shouting. We had come about a hundred feet and effluent, sewage, chemicals from the cooling, air conditioning and heating systems: as well as, water from fire engines pouring water on the above ground smoldering fire was raining down on top of us. Lentz hid the camera under his clothing so it wouldn’t be destroyed. I found out later that the water was filled with all the chemicals and garbage which the water had picked up from the rubble as well as sewage. (For years, Dr Smith had played a game with the ‘soon to be retired’ old man at the laboratory where he had his patients tested for toxic exposure. The game was ‘guess the occupation of the patient’. The old man usually guessed the occupation correctly but in my case he told Dr Smith: “This man lives in a sewer. He is the most poisoned and toxic individual I have ever tested in 40 years. He has everything in him.”). I, now, know why.
The place was very foggy, the liquid was splashing and being atomized. We were ingesting it into our lungs (Lentz had a mask on. I didn’t because I had to tell him what to do and needed to be able to speak clearly.) (Dr Smith told me that this area was actually like a subterranean mushroom farm rather than a subway and that spores of fungi and yeast were being made airborne by these waterfalls and that is why my lungs became covered with 10 types of fungi and 2 types of yeast. This and the other 5 respiratory diseases I had developed caused me to walk only 3 ft without hyperventilating and requiring me to rest and recover my breath after every mouthful of food.)
I looked into the subway pit and saw that it was flooded with about 3 ft of liquid. The tunnel going to New Jersey was open. I told Lentz that it wasn’t necessary to search the subway pit now but we might need to get into it if the rest of the building collapses and we need to try to escape to New Jersey.
We traveled another 50 ft and we came to the crushed remains of the subway train. The last few cars were Ok except for broken windows and being dusty, dirty and full of a few pieces of concrete. The first car was different. It was smashed in half. The front part was less than an inch high. The weight of the rubble had crushed the train car to an inch thick! Moving back from the edge a huge piece of concrete was ‘impossibly’ resting upon a window frame. It was just above our heads. I told Lentz that we had better get out or we would be liquefied if it snapped the window frame. I had a funny feeling about this place which made me return to it several more times over the next few days. (As it turned out, I was informed by the videographer for the NYFD who was made an honorary Battalion Chief for taking video for the NYFD; when they came to this area, 2 months later, after the rubble had been removed to make it safe; a dead woman was found crushed under the middle section of the train car. I repeatedly had returned to within 3 ft of her corpse many times.)
Lentz and I were very tired, very thirsty, very hot, very uncomfortable and I thought that we should get out to recuperate and return later to make a more complete search.
We traced our steps back to the edge of the pit next to the wall ledge. This took about an hour or so.
Lentz filmed a few minutes of footage whenever I stopped to give him safety instructions.
I always lead the way so I slithered along the ledge and got under the dangling concrete above my head and my legs under the beam. Lentz said that he wanted to videotape me. I said: “OK. But hurry-up. I don’t want to be killed. If this beam falls down my legs will be smashed to nothing. He took the few seconds of video. He panned up to the pieces of concrete. He took the clip of my face looking like Al Jolson from all the grease on it.
I got out and Lentz came behind me. We got on the escalators, crawled under the fallen rubble and got to the place on the escalator near the entry point. I looked closely and Stepped onto the rubble. A slab of concrete which was bigger than all the other rubble around me was underneath this area of the dangling wires and cables. It was about 5 ft by 5 ft, in size and was on an angle of about 45 degrees. I looked at it carefully and thought it was safe. There was no rubble on it. It looked clean. (What I didn’t realize is that it was blanketed with a fine, almost invisible concrete powder about ½ inch thick.)
I stepped on it. Instantly my feet went out from under me. I instantly thought: “Don’t grab the lines or the whole ceiling will come down and kill me”..then I thought: “ Oh my God. If I fall off the edge I will fall down on the pieces of rebar..like a tiger trap..I’ll be killed..” then I thought: “ Do a judo fall…slap the concrete..and grab the edge with my hands..” All of this flashed through my mind in a micro-second. I twisted my spine, hit the edge of the slab with my spinal column, slapped the flat area of the concrete slab and caught the edge with my fingers. I pulled myself up and over the concrete slab until I was on the other side, under the dangling rebar. It wasn’t until later that I discovered that I had fragmented 3 discs of my spine. I required 3 surgical procedures and couldn’t walk without a cane for many months. The pain was so intense that Oxycotin didn’t have any effect. Several times I passed unconscious with pain. I remain partially paralyzed, to this day. My left foot and the back of my left leg remain numb.
I kept going and Lentz came out behind me. I crawled out through the tiny hole and found myself at the bottom of the pit. I don’t remember if it was day or night but I was thirsty. Lentz and I walked a mile through rubble and destruction, most of the way, until we got to the edge of the 911 security zone. I had several bottles of cold water, juice and soda; which was followed by a paper plate of food donated to the workers.
Hot Lips Hollihan from Mash and Tim Robbins were serving food. Robbins looked really traumatized. I thought I should go over and talk to him. I thought I could help him deal with his obvious suffering. I thought about an ambulance driver I had helped avoid suicide at the Swissair Crash and then I thought that I had better not go to Robbins. He might think that I was helping him because he was a movie star instead of just another victim. So I didn’t. I woofed my food off the plate and went with Lentz to the ARTI Emergency Van and saw our driver Steve.
He took us back to the Hotel Marriott. Miller was waiting outside. He was perfectly clean and dressed in ‘dressy’ clothes. I understood that Lang and the rest were inside the bar area drinking. Miller insisted on filming us.
Lentz very quickly washed himself and told me that he was going to return to 911, find Rob Verhauf and work with him, the NYFD and the Casualty Locator locating body parts.
** I am seen as filmed by Mike Miller giving an update on our Ground Zero work and searching under the rubble in the collapsed subway area. Lentz shook my hand, told me that it was a wonderful thing that we had done and that the people of New York could rest easy that nobody was buried alive, in that area. In fact, as stated, in the training film Lentz ‘shot under the rubble’ the people who were in that vast subterranean area were able to escape.
I continued to say that I was pleased with what we had accomplished and that I was finally going to be able to take the time from work to sleep. The camera was supposedly turned off; however, Miller had accidentally left the camera on record. I told Lentz that my skin was ‘crawling’ and that I was ‘itchy as hell’ that the black grease all over my face, hands, arms and chest was ‘driving me crazy and that I couldn’t wait to get a hot shower and clean all that ‘crap off me’.(I later found out that this black soot had come from the burning jet fuel, was impregnated with thousands of poisons and that these toxins were to enter my lungs, sinus, eyes and skin causing havoc on my health. My skin was to break out into thousands of blisters and I was to develop glaucoma and a litany of serious medical problems. Several weeks later when I spoke with Robb Verhauf I was to find out that Lentz had not gone with him to Ground Zero. Lentz had washed up to go bar-hopping with free ‘hero’ drinks.)
** I went to the front desk. While waiting for the night manager I took my arms out from my jumpsuit and tied them around my waist. I spoke with the night manager, who was a Turkish Citizen, regarding his efforts, on behalf of myself and ARTI, to contact my Turkish team members with AKUT, in Istanbul. He told me that he had spoken with Nasuh Maruki and that Nasuh had told him that there was no way that any rescuers could get into 911, to help. He told me that FEMA had blocked their team from helping at 911. I checked to see if there were any messages. There were some messages. I called on a pay phone so that I wouldn’t accrue hotel surcharges.
After the calls I saw Lang and some of his entourage in the bar area of the lobby. I nodded my head to them and went to my room. Lang later published that he saw me as a “red suited buffoon flying around the Hotel Lobby waving my arms like superman” I had attracted everyone’s attention because (as the video shows) I was so incredibly dirty, toxic and poisoned; however, I was very quiet, I pressed the elevator button, took the elevator up to my floor area and I went to my room , had a hot shower, inspected all the equipment, placed everything in a ‘readiness condition’ and then I went to sleep. I was exhausted.
**Eric Wade damaged the casualty Locator, got the NYFD and Peter Donahue very angry. Peter got in touch with me and I had to sort out the mess. I quote Peter Donahue: “Over the weekend, I was contacted by told by the NYFD officers who accompanied Eric Wade to Ground Zero and informed that he had misused and damaged the casualty locator and that when seeing body parts discovered by the device he “turned coward” and obstructed the recovery work. The Fire Department was mad at me because of the irrational, unprofessional behavior of Eric Wade, and the fact that I had suggested him, but they still wanted the machine because they had seen it function initially. They wanted Doug to fix the machine and teach me how to use it effectively, so I could go with them. The officers informed me that after mishandling the casualty locator Eric Wade attempted to test it by going inside a refrigerated van which had a corpse inside and testing the device on the corpse. The machine wouldn’t work because the body was refrigerated and the bacteria were dormant, but Wade later claimed the machine this proved the device was fallacious. Wade didn’t understand that the machine only works when the bacteria are active”..
** I was forced to take time away from my search for victims to repair the Casualty Locator (broken by Eric Wade) to keep Peter Donahue happy and to facilitate his work with the NYFD. The NYFD were very despondent and I knew that it would really cheer them up to have the Casualty Locator working for them to help them recover the remains of their brothers. Also, I had to repair the damage done to ARTI by being associated with the cowardly, unprofessional and perverted behavior of Eric Wade.
Sept 17
** First Inside Edition public service message program ‘White Light’
** I got very sick and as I was later informed by Dr Tim Smith and other Doctors I had already begun to exhibit the effects of being poisoned.
** I passed Linthicum, in the Hall. She acted very cold. I nodded my head to her and said: Hi. I don’t think she said anything. A couple of minutes later, I passed Lang’s other reporter, named Stewert, in the hallway. I asked him what was going on with Linthicum and things seemed strange. He said: Let’s step into the room and talk in private. He said that he was ordered by Lang, not to speak with me but he would talk with me in confidence. I asked him about Lang’s intentions and why Lang is so ‘screwed-up.’ He said: “Lang can be impossible to cope with but he writes my paycheck.” It was all very weird but it was obvious that Stewert could hardly stand Lang. Stewert was omitted from the AJ articles against me.
**I don’t know when I got out of bed. All I can say is that I would normally have gotten up after 4 hours of sleep, at this point in a disaster; however, since I was poisoned and sick I don’t remember.
**At one point, Peter Donahue came to my room. We spoke about Eric Wade’s disgusting behavior and his flight from New York to escape the NYFD. Peter told me that he had seen Wade shouting and screaming at the firefighter’s corpse in the refrigerated ambulance. I told him that Wade had actually punched the corpse while Peter had gone into the Fire Station. The tool salesman for Hurst tools had witnessed Wade screaming at the corpse and had gone into the station to tell the firefighters but he and Peter had missed the part where Wade actually punched the corpse. I deeply regretted having anything to do with Lang and his entourage and had wished I could have stepped back in time and actually drove to 911, in my car, rather than fly with Lang and such disgusting people.
** I had a hasty conversation with Eric Wade that he had better run before the NYFD kill him for punching the corpse of the NYFD firefighter.
**Lang and his entourage entered the room. A huge fight took place. Peter had a fistfight with Steve Lentz. Lentz had a drink in his hand and was drunk. Lentz was ‘sucking up to Lang.’
**I broke up the fight by getting between them and pushing them apart.
**Lang started with his 18th Century European Royalty behavior by demanding that I get him an Emergency Pass. He demanded again, that I get an Emergency Pass, for Holley, who I thought to be one of Lang’s lovers. (Holley had already asked me several times for me to get him an emergency pass. I had refused him because of 3 reasons: 1) he gave me the impression of being a slimey character, 2) he was thrown out of The Oklahoma City Crisis for bad behavior and he was self admitted to be hiding from ‘rescue people’, in New York and told me NOT to let anyone know that he was there and 3) he told me that he rubbed dirt on his face to sneak into the restricted are for Lang to take his picture.)
I completely lost my cool because I was sick and disgusted. I had put up with Lang’s foul, juvenile and condescending behavior for the sake of ARTI. On many occasions, following Lang’s outbursts, Miller had told ‘me to put up with’ Lang’s behavior because he would be able to provide transportation and funds to ARTI so that ARTI would never be prevented from saving lives due to lack of funds.
Peter Donahue reports: “Over the weekend, I returned to the Marriott to speak with Doug about Wade’s misbehavior. While I was meeting with him, two very bad things happened. First, I witnessed a verbal argument between Doug Copp and Tom Lang. Lang said, to Doug: “You promised me that you were going to give me a good story; so that I could look good. You said you were going to give me a badge.” Doug said: “No! It’s about time people knew who you are and what you want. Enough is enough! I cannot take anymore. You are all evil bastards. I won’t give you a badge.” Tom Lang looked at me and said: “Get the fuck out!” I told Tom Lang: “Go fuck yourself!” At that point, Doug said, to Tom Lang: “I’m not giving you a badge.” Tom Lang said: “We’re out of here!” Mike Miller and Tom Lang left to return to New Mexico. Lang left the room. I understood they were all going to leave for New Mexico. Doug told me: “Peter, go with Randy Haverd while I recover from being sick.””
** Dr Pierce claims that he didn’t arrive in New York until Nov 18 but I remember correctly or incorrectly him examining me on Sept 17. This could be due to the fact that I was poisoned and sometimes delirious at this point. I don’t know. Dr Pierce entered the room after Lang left. He said that he was “the team Doctor” and that he was checking everybody. I was on the bathroom floor throwing up in the toilet. I had a fever and was drenched with sweat running down my forehead. I felt confused, dazed, disoriented and sick. I was coughing. My nose was bleeding. I got up off the floor and came into the bedroom. Pierce said that he wanted to examine me. He looked into my eyes and mouth. He told me that I should give Lang an Emergency Badge. I told Pierce that I had enough of Lang and I would never give Lang a Badge, in a million years. I asked Pierce if it was serious. I asked him what I should do. I asked him if I should stop going into the rubble; whether I should take medicine. He told me not to worry about it and I would cough it all out in a couple of weeks.
Peter Donahue is quoted: “However, I continued to stay with Doug. We were alone. The door was left open. At this point, a Doctor entered the room, I didn’t know his name at the time, but I later learned that he was Dr. Elliot Pierce, a friend of Tom Lang’s who had come to join Lang from New Mexico. He examined Doug. Doug’s nose was bleeding. He was throwing up in the toilet. He was coughing and he appeared to have a fever. Doug spoke with the Doctor. Doug asked him what to do, specifically whether he needed to take medicine or stay out of the rubble. The Doctor said: “Don’t worry; you’ll cough it all out soon.” Later, Doug told me that Dr. Pierce threatened to sue Doug for claiming that this conversation had taken place if Doug did not admit it never had, whereupon I authorized Doug to inform Dr. Pierce that I was a witness to the occurrence, whereupon Dr. Pierce dropped his demand and disappeared. Doug told me that Dr. Pierce had made his threats because he thought Doug had made reference to Dr. Pierce in connection with his application for 9/11 Commission compensation, which in fact Doug had not done.”
Sept 18
**I had a discussion with John Grace to take some of Copp’s surplus equipment back to NM with him. I can’t remember if he took any equipment with him or not. I can’t remember if he flew back with Lang or he went back on his own.
**Spend a great deal of time thoroughly searching under the rubble with Ron Hadani and Lentz
**In Lentz affidavit he states that himself and Hadani and I, along with 6 Chicago FD searched the underground area of Tower 2.
** I took 5 minutes of videotape of Lentz explaining how dirty and contaminated everything was and that black soot was in and on everything. Ron Hadani who had been an Israeli Fighter pilot stayed out of site of the camera and told us that he did not want to be in the video because he would be killed if Arabs discovered that he was an Israeli Fighter Pilot. This was the only time I took video. Linthicum lied about this.
** I explained to Hadani and Lentz that we would rendezvous at the bar if we became trapped underground because of the precarious entry beam which FEMA was afraid of collapsed, preventing our escape.
** I searched the bar area for water in case we became trapped. There was none in a sink, any water lines, the toilet had no tank and there was no water in the bowel. The only liquid was beer. It was very hot. My tongue was swollen from thirst, the black soot in the air that I had ingested and was inside of my mouth. My self and Lentz opened 2 beers. I had a mouthful and spit it out. It was about 120-130 degrees and tasted like hot syrup. Hadani was smart. He didn’t have any. I guess he knew it would be horrible.
** As Lentz and Copp came out of the hole a FEMA individual who by dress and appearance had never seen a collapsed building before, and whose uniform was as clean as if he had just came from the dry cleaners came over towards our group which included 8 Chicago Firefighters. Two of the Chicago Fire Dept crew who were working in the subterranean area, with us, had caught the FBI looting a jewelry store.
These firefighters excitedly explained to Copp there incredible experience: as they had entered the subterranean area where the underground mall was located they heard glass being smashed. As they turned the corner they saw two FBI agents stuffing their pockets with Rolex watches that they were taking from the jewelry cases (The smashed glass was from the jewelry glass cases being smashed.). The FBI grabbed them, threw them against the wall and stuck guns in there back. They asked: “Who are you.” They replied: “Chicago FD. “ One of the Chicago FD told the FBI agent that he wasn’t afraid of them…..that he had been in Vietnam and that they had caught the FBI red-handed looting.
The FBI threatened them to keep their mouth shut and let them go. The Chicago FD twosome came to the surface from their hole at the same time as Lentz and I emerged from our hole. They were extremely excited. They told me and the other 6 Chicago FD who had been working with us about catching the FBI looting. I immediately said: “I don’t give a shit who they are. I am going to file a Police report.”
**At this moment the immaculate and inexperienced FEMA individual came over wearing latex gloves. I didn’t pay much attention to him. I rallied all the ‘guys’ and headed directly to the security border. I spoke with the NYPD Lt., in charge. I told him that I wanted to make a formal police incident report (I had been a Police Officer for 5 years.) I told him that I didn’t want a cover-up or have this ‘looting’ swept under the rug.
**He told me that he would make the report and charges would be laid. We left, the area, because the Chicago FD were afraid that the FBI would harm them.
**The Chicago FD were driven back to their hotel by our driver, Steve.
**Lentz, Hadani and myself went to a rescue bar which was filled with NYPD and NYFD Officers who were ‘cooling off’ and taking a break from working, in order to calm themselves. A wealthy man from the Midwest was paying for all drinks for the entire bar. Three girls were stripping on top of the bar. They were dancing with their pants unzipped and in their bras. We had 2 beers each. Lentz had a whiskey too. Two of the dancing girls came over and told us that they lived at apartment number #### in the building they were pointing towards. They said that they would leave the door unlocked and that we could come over and get in bed with them. I went to the bathroom I came out quickly after 3 minutes and looked for Steve Lentz and Ron Hadani. I was certain that Steve Lentz had taken off with the strippers but I felt that Ron Hadani had probably taken off home rather than go with the strippers.
** I went to a makeshift NYPD Police Station. I told them that I was so exhausted that I would collapse on the floor if I didn’t get back to my hotel in 20 minutes. I asked them if I could sleep on the floor in a corner. The Officer took me to the Watch Commander. He talked to him and I told him that I was ready to fall down I was so tired. He told me not to worry and that he would get a patrol car to take me back to the hotel. I went back to my hotel room with a drive from 2 NYPD police. Along the way we talked. I told them about catching the FBI looting and other work we had done. I gave them some advice about emotionally coping with the tragedy. They said that it was an honor for them to meet me and thanked me for helping.
**I went back to my Hotel. I called Bill Reeves (ARTI Manager) and Rita Cosby, a friend with Fox News. I gave everybody the details concerning the FBI looting and the names and the contacts of the Chicago FD members.
**They got in their car and headed back to Chicago. Days later, I was informed that memories were suddenly frozen. I was told by the Chicago FD member who was the one the FBI had shoved a gun in his back that he couldn’t carry through with charges against them. He told me that he had been threatened by the FBI. The Chicago Firefighter told me that he had a wife and 2 children and that he was threatened with job loss as well as other threats.” Rob Verhauf went with them. He later sent me a picture and a thank you note for letting him work with me at 911.
**The Chicago Firefightertold the press that he could not remember anything. It was over. Copp was the only person who had the guts to go after the FBI and Copp was not a direct witness. The reader might remember a huge scandal when a whistleblower at the FBI reported the Deputy Director for having a $25,000 jeweled map globe from a jewelry store under the rubble. He had been keeping it in his office as a souvenir for two years. She said that she could not stand seeing it anymore. She reported it to the media because she was offended and considered it to be looting. Consequently, the Deputy Director was reported in the newspapers as donating the globe to a museum. Copp concluded that the looting agents (that Copp and his team had caught) had stolen the globe to give to the Deputy Director so as to cover up their looting the watches. If it became publicly known, the Deputy Director would be implicated too.
Copp affirms that Leslie Linthicum knew all of this and, in fact, she knew that the FEMA official had not tried to “kick us out” (in fact he had NO authority to remove anyone who had the same level of emergency pass as himself). The truth is that the Chicago Fire Department were running as fast as possible to get away from the FBI looters and Copp was running to report to the NY Police Department before the FBI confronted any of Copp and his team or intimidated Copp’s witnesses to the looting.
Copp did file a police report. It was all squashed when the Chicago Fire Department witnesses were intimidated against testifying.
Sept 19
** I did the second interview with Inside Edition. Inside Edition announce the subterranean area is completely searched. My voice had changed and was very hoarse from being sick and poisoned.
**Search Below the rubble with Ron Hadani and Lentz.
**Assist and instruct the Chicago FD members and Rob Verhauf to search the underground mall area.
**The Chicago FD catches the FBI in the act of looting a jewelry store.
**Doug reports to the NYPD to file a complaint against the FBI for looting.
**Doug contacts Rita Cosby, Larry Posner, Idi Callahan and ARTI Manager Bill Reeves about the FBI looting.
** Had breathing problems at 911. I went to Stuyvesant Command Center and saw Dr. This was followed by a massage from Church of Scientology group who were helping long line-ups of tired NYFD and NYPD.
**Not sure: I think this is when Lang and his entourage returned from New Mexico.
Sept 20
** Go under the rubble again, I think with Lentz.
**I think this is the day that I met with ARTI member, Dr Kraev, of New York State who examined me.
** I had numerous conversations with the national fire dept of Peru for their help at 911.
**I wrote a doc and sent a fax to the US Embassy, in Peru for Emergency Issuance of Visa.
Sept 21
**Doug returns to spot with crushed woman under the rubble. Doug Searches with a volunteer with light system.
Sept 22
**Doug searches the subterranean area with the crushed woman for the last time.
**Pancho arrives in New York City 3 to 4 days before I left for ABQ. This is approx when he arrived. There are pictures of him and myself at 911 but I am yet to recover my memories of my time spent with him.
Sept 23
**Doug searches the complete above ground 911 area for a worthwhile search entry point
**I met with the owner of the van and thanked him for helping our team.
Sept 24
**Doug explores the entire above ground area for any place that would be worthwhile to search
**Assisted the Spanish speaking community to cope.
**Started making pre arrangements for Pancho and ARTI members of the New York Spanish speaking community to help him.
Sept 25
**Met with Hotel Manager and thanked him for helping our team.
**I paid the liquor and room service bill left behind by Lentz.
**arrived back in New Mexico from 911 mission
Sept 26
** Mike Holley steals some of ARTI’s rescue Equipment
Sept 27
**Carlos and Efrain visit NM. I have my first respiratory attack and go to Emergency Room at Hospital. My lung capacity is down to 225 from 700.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
Sept 28
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
Sept 29 to OCT 3
**Efrain Huamann returns to 911 from my home in NM
**I trained Pancho to repair, maintain and use the casualty locator and helped him make arrangements for community and police support at the Killer’s Field landfill.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 4
**Pancho returns to 911
**Daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 5
**Daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 6
**Daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 7 to OCT 15
**Around this time I contact Rob Verhauf. I told him I knew about him and Lentz using the casualty locator to find a cluster of fully intact but gruesomely mutilated corpses and the arm of a well manicured lady sticking out of the rubble. He told me that he didn’t know what I was talking about. We left the conversation NOT knowing why Lentz had said these things.
** Around this time I was contacted by Miller, Grace and Wade. They arranged for a meeting and demanded that I sign away all rights to my casualty locator, to them, for 5% of the sale price they had arranged with a wealthy man. I refused. Pat Kelly was involved in discussions with and legal demands upon these individuals who told me that they would take it for nothing if I didn’t sign. Eric Wade threatened me. He said: “You don’t know who I am . I will destroy you.”
OCT 16
**Daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 17 to OCT 24
OCT 25
** Around this time I go to Bernalillo FD Station looking for Holley to get my equipment back. I am told that he is a persona non grata and I can forget about ever getting my equipment back.
OCT 26 to OCT 29
**Daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 30
**Daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble.
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**Arranged for support to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
OCT 31 to Nov 6
**I make preparations for my 2nd mission to 911.
NOV 7
**Doug goes to 911 to help Efrain recover body parts
**I had daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble and daily discussions with Bill Reeves concerning these activities..
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
** I contacted Mayor Giuliani’s office many times and was stalled.
**I contacted NYPD Commissioner Kerrick’s Office many times and was stalled.
** I was told that a New Commissioner was being appointed and there was nobody who could decide anything because there was such chaos. I later discovered that there was a huge scandal brewing against Commissioner Kerrick and Giuliani and Kerrick were to form a company together called ‘Giuliani and Kerrick’. This company was to receive several multi-million dollar contracts in Iraq and Kerrick would be later charged with many different crimes while he was partner with Giuliani.
**Met with powerful people in the Latino Community to get political support for locating body parts.
**Pancho continued to work at the Killer’s landfill while I was sick from 911 poisoning.
NOV 8
** I was approached by Church of Scientology Group re their work at 911.
**I met with Chicago FD Capt. and discussed their role working with ARTI during 911.
**I had daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble and daily discussions with Bill Reeves concerning these activities..
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**I make preparations for my 2nd mission to 911.
** I contacted Mayor Giuliani’s office many times and was stalled.
**I contacted NYPD Commissioner Kerrick’s Office many times and was stalled.
** I was told that a New Commissioner was being appointed and there was nobody who could decide anything because there was such chaos. I later discovered that there was a huge scandal brewing against Commissioner Kerrick and Giuliani and Kerrick were to form a company together called ‘Giuliani and Kerrick’. This company was to receive several multi-million dollar contracts in Iraq and Kerrick would be later charged with many different crimes while he was partner with Giuliani.
**Met with powerful people in the Latino Community to get political support for locating body parts.
**Pancho continued to work at the Killer’s landfill while I was sick from 911 poisoning.
NOV 9
**I had daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble and daily discussions with Bill Reeves concerning these activities..
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
**I make preparations for my 2nd mission to 911.
** I contacted Mayor Giuliani’s office many times and was stalled.
**I contacted NYPD Commissioner Kerrick’s Office many times and was stalled.
** I was told that a New Commissioner was being appointed and there was nobody who could decide anything because there was such chaos. I later discovered that there was a huge scandal brewing against Commissioner Kerrick and Giuliani and Kerrick were to form a company together called ‘Giuliani and Kerrick’. This company was to receive several multi-million dollar contracts in Iraq and Kerrick would be later charged with many different crimes while he was partner with Giuliani.
**Met with powerful people in the Latino Community to get political support for locating body parts.
**Pancho continued to work at the Killer’s landfill while I was sick from 911 poisoning.
NOV 10
**I had daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble and daily discussions with Bill Reeves concerning these activities..
** Arranged to locate body parts before the 911 rubble was permanently plowed under in the garbage dump.
** I contacted Mayor Giuliani’s office many times and was stalled.
**I contacted NYPD Commissioner Kerrick’s Office many times and was stalled.
** I was told that a New Commissioner was being appointed and there was nobody who could decide anything because there was such chaos. I later discovered that there was a huge scandal brewing against Commissioner Kerrick and Giuliani and Kerrick were to form a company together called ‘Giuliani and Kerrick’. This company was to receive several multi-million dollar contracts in Iraq and Kerrick would be later charged with many different crimes while he was partner with Giuliani.
**Met with powerful people in the Latino Community to get political support for locating body parts.
**Pancho continued to work at the Killer’s landfill while I was sick from 911 poisoning.
NOV 11
**Doug returned from 911 to NM
NOV 12 to DEC 16
**I had daily reports from and communication with Pancho re searching for 911 victim’s remains in rubble and daily discussions with Bill Reeves concerning these activities..
**Pancho continued to work at the Killer’s landfill while I was sick from 911 poisoning.
DEC 17
**Efrain Huamann and ARTI end search for 911 victims
One Response to ARTI and Doug Copp*** Minute by Minute*** Timeline at 911
Frank Albergaria says:all true
Comments
I have been sick, in bed,..slow to respond.
Someone asked about respirators at 911..there were known distributed. American Red Cross had thousands of them donated by 3M Corp but they kept them, in their warehouse, to later sell..one of the least known 911 crimes.
Yes Doug thank you for all the details. Unbelievable how childish some people are. It is tragic enough to have been exposed to a soup of contaminants, but it is another thing to have people seek glory of the body of the victims. Human nature, it never changes.
Doug, did the command post issues any PPE's or you had to provide your own?
Well Doug you have guts. First for going under rubble and second for telling some glory seekers off.
Not surprised to hear FBI members looting the stores under the WTC. Thanks for sharing your story.