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The First Wave of Ascension - Matt Kahn

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Comment by Cheryl Nelson on May 27, 2014 at 1:40pm

That's good it doesn't bother you, Sandra, but it bothered Byron, and it makes me wonder if it is worth posting at all if negativity is involved.  I'm trying to find the right criteria by which these things can be evaluated for appropriateness to post.

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on May 27, 2014 at 1:21pm

I agree.  That is a very negative statement.  I might not have posted the video if I had heard that.

Adobe updates frequently on my computer.  Flash hasn't crashed recently.

Comment by Byron wilkins on May 27, 2014 at 12:35pm

When I first heard the business failing part I was appalled. My mind went right to the work our new practitioners here and how they have chosen to heal people and reach the SC with answers, I did not mention this at first because I did not want to instill in anyone's mind that they were going to fail. Cheryl do you have the latest version of Adobe Flash player that has happened to me when I didn't update it.  I consider you that have chosen to be Practitioners to be light workers more so than most of the so called ones on the internet. I have spent years in motivational training and know without exception that when you tell someone they are going to fail it will be a cold day in hell that they don't fail.    

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on May 27, 2014 at 11:29am

Well, I really want to hear the rest of this video but it goes for a while and then the daisy wheel starts spinning and it stops.  This is so frustrating.  I emptied my cache recently.  What else can I do?  Why does it keep hanging up like that?

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on May 27, 2014 at 11:27am

I agree, Sandra, about ET's interfering by giving dates.  And the fact that there are even the existence of channels makes you wonder how they think they aren't interfering, even if it is as benign as cheerleading us on.  I think the distinction to make is whether the message is uplifting and edifying us on raising our vibrations, or if it is just cheerleading us on, telling us we don't have to do anything because everyone will ascend because we are "royalty."  The first is useful, practical, and love based; the second seems to be vanity stroking and lulling us back to sleep.  What do you think?

Comment by Byron wilkins on May 27, 2014 at 10:42am

My opinion is that when another date that never happens does not do anything but make people go back to sleep and not search for their higher self. There is another thing that he says in his video that I think is negative and that is do not start a business to train people to understand how to become more spiritual in other words he says get a job and do it with your fellow employees. First of all try and find a job. He says don't even print business cards because you will fail and he repeats it. Like every channeled message you hear wonderful messages. Of course we teach by example but there are many light workers out there that are not failing. When someone tells you that you are going to fail red flags fall out of the sky. Peter we are always waiting for someone to answer our questions. I wonder how many people he put back to sleep with his message that you will fail. It reminds me of Oblunders message to this country that you did not build your own business the government did by building a road to get there. The other message that he gave to the African people was that not everyone will be allowed to have a big house and an air conditioner, so they accept their plight of poverty. The subconscious mind picks those messages up and leads you to failure.        

Comment by Peter S on May 27, 2014 at 4:31am

As you may have gathered I like this guys message - it may be possible that ascension will happen to those who prepare in the right way - but yes, predicting a date seems always to be a problem.

And if I was very cynical I could say that this guy could be building the case for an ongoing story here ... what he is saying is that only one third of the population will ascend to 5D here on Earth as the first wave by Sept 2015 - no mention as to when the 2nd and 3rd wave will be accommodated. He also gives himself a little bit of an out with the first date - obviously if you haven't ascended by then by his definition you are not part of the first wave and your turn is to come .... tba, I assume.

I hate to think like I have above but many people have been burnt by dates.

We wait and see .....

Comment by Byron wilkins on May 26, 2014 at 8:57pm

Peter I agree that there is so much to learn yet but it appears to be moving us in that direction quickly. Too many people think they have ascension figured out but since there are many different interpretation of what happens there seems to be a lot of guessing going on. The world around us is changing for the better very rapidly so what I see is it happening sooner than later.

Comment by Peter S on May 26, 2014 at 8:19pm

Byron, I'm not sure he said the 4 blood moons are a myth - I think he said that that wasn't his field and he was excited that they aligned with the period of time he had been given for the first wave of ascension.

Cheryl & Byron, yes I agree we all need to be wary of "channelers" and "spiritual postings" - I believe no one has the full story yet and at best these people are interpreting information in the best way they can - which (whenever anything is left to interpretation) may or may not be correct.

Predicting a time frame or giving a date has been the downfall of many in the past.

I do believe that the gateway or doorway to knock down the charade of this 3D matrix and move into 4D, 5D etc is within each of us - we individually need to find that pathway.

Hopefully this can be achieved by clearing the internal ego thought processes either thru meditation or an ascension process as described by Matt (or a combination thereof) - I do feel I personally have came a long way over the past few years in that respect - but still have some distance to go.

Or maybe some external influence is require to open up the chakras / dormant DNA etc to allow it to happen.

Maybe ascension is just the rewiring of the brain into one complete unit rather than 2 separate hemispheres (duality) - or maybe it is something other than this ....

Until it actually happens - none of us really knows ....

But I do think clearing ones mind (thru meditation and other like methods including the 4 step process), eating healthy foods and connecting more with nature can only to achieve or be better prepared for ascension. That's why we are here right now at this stage in time - to prepare for ascension - to prepare for a huge shift in consciousness that is going to occur.

Still so many questions unanswered:

Where will ascension actually lead us to?

What will it be like?

Will everyone ascend?

I still say: "Bring it on - and soon!"

Comment by Cheryl Nelson on May 26, 2014 at 11:10am

Jim Self also stated that we should be experiencing 5D by 2015.  I too am leary of dates.  I will take these dates as possibilities only, not concrete. Tolec never said he was GFL, just GF, and made a distinction between the two.  Sheldan Nidle is definitely GFL.  The first has a missed deadline and the second promotes ascension chambers.  So, I think at this point, take the good that you can get out of something and put the questionable stuff on hold, and continue to seek the truth.  As I've said before, the new age community was infiltrated with disinfo.  It's like our food supply, it's been contaminated with GMO, chemical additives and preservatives, toxic sweetners, etc.  We have to pick our food carefully because we can't stop eating.  Sometimes we'll get some of those nasties, it's unavoidable, but do your best to limit them.  Same thing with spiritual postings.  Just because they are spiritual doesn't mean they are 100% pure.  We don't give up seeking truth because it's a different subject matter.  The price for truth and freedom is vigilance at all times. 


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