20 states file petitions to to withdraw from the union called the United States

[Byron wilkins]

http://theperiledsea.ning.com/profiles/blogs/16-states-file-to-withdraw-from-the-union

[Cheryl Nelson]

While I hope your right, Byron, this is like going to the fox to complain about the fox in the henhouse.

[Byron wilkins]

 I am a patriot and feel there is teeth and do not think that the anointed one is not watching his fall from dictatorship.As much as the world thinks O was elected he really was chosen by his leaders. This has more teeth than than all the channels and will not stop until the evil is gone. And to understand this more cleararly , the vacations are over.  

[Cheryl Nelson]

Up to 34 states now:  http://www.infowars.com/citzens-from-34-states-petition-the-white-h...

This article echoes what I said... it's a vote of no confidence but no real teeth.

[Cheryl Nelson]

How does states rights play into this?  Does that mean secession is not a state's right? 

[desertrose]

Yes they say  that   the  Texas  Constitution says that , however  when  they  were  re admitted  ti the  Union by  Ulysses S Grant in  1870.  There are  those  who say  that the  agreement  nullified the ability  to  secede from the  Union as  can be  seen  here :

Be it ordained by the people of Texas in Convention assembled, That we acknowledge the supremacy of the Constitution of the United States, and the laws passed in pursuance thereof; and that an Ordinance adopted by a former Convention of the people of Texas on the 1st day of February, A.D. 1861, entitled "An Ordinance to Dissolve the Union between the State of Texas and the other States, united under the compact styled 'Constitution of the United States of America,'" be and the same is hereby declared null and void; and the right heretofore claimed by the State of Texas to secede from the Union, is hereby distinctly renounced. Passed 15th March, 1866.

SOURCE:


The Constitution of the State of Texas, as Amended by the Delegates in Convention Assembled, Austin, 1866. Austin: Printed at the Southern Intelligencer Office, 1866, p. 32.

. https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/secession/15march1866.html

[Cheryl Nelson]

The saying goes, it's easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission. 
One of my friends lived in Texas for some years and says it is in their law (I presume it was negotiated when it became a state) that it can revert to being its own country again, a right that all other states (presumably) don't have. 

[Cheryl Nelson]

The latest stats show Texas has doubled its signatures...

https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/latest-state-secession-...

[desertrose]

Here in  Texas  they  hold a special voting session  every   January  2nd to vote  on  secession and it  never  passes.  Frankly   I am surprised.  Texans  have  always  been  known  for their  firm and deep rooted  beliefs .  Right or wrong they have conviction.  You  have to admire that, for sure.

However,  I  know that  this  will never  happen.  The  Administration  would  never allow  Texas or  any  other State  to secede.  We  have to understand that.......

[Byron wilkins]

 DR I bet this made you proud being a Texan, it certainly gave me hope.

[desertrose]

Texas reaches it”s goal of required signatures in order for the Pet...

 

November 12, 2012

The petition to let Texas secede from the U.S. to be reviewed by th...

(AP Photo)

Well, Texas, you have done it.

As of 3:40 p.m. ET, more than 25,000 Texans have already signed the petition on The White House website to let Texas peacefully secede from United States of America and “create its own NEW government.”

The petition, created on Nov. 9, argues for secession, stating:  secession

Screenshot of the petition on the White House website at 3:40 p.m. ET on Nov. 12, 2012. (Jana Kasperkevic/Houston Chronicle)

According to The White House, the petition must reach 25,000 signatures within 30 days in order to be considered.

“If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response,” explains the website.

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