I present all views possible, pro or con, about the existence of Planet X and its ETA. This email was posted by David elsewhere and I'm reposting it for your consideration. I agree about the sun dogs/lens flares. Second sun sightings these past years in the northern hemisphere while PX was under the ecliptic as said elsewhere wouldn't be possible. But if a PX-object isn't out there, then the question becomes what is causing the earth changes? It still could be a PX-object, but it just might be further away than we think?
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Z <andy3751@hotmail.com>
To: yaridanjo <yaridanjo@hotmail.com>; dark-star-planet-x <dark-star-planet-x@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 6, 2012 3:19 am
Subject: RE: 2012 IMPACT THREAT UP
Now it's 2012, I'd like to make a general point about the Return of Planet X. Some years ago I criticised Marshall Masters, Jacco van der Worp and Janice Manning in my book review of their "Planet X Forecast and 2012 Survival Guide". They argued that a Nibiru/Planet X/Dark Star object would be 'clearly visible at night as a bright, reddish object' to observers in the southern hemisphere from mid-2009, and would appear more generally as a second sun in 2012. More specifically, they prophesized that Planet X would be just 6.4AU away by 15th May 2011, and thus by now should be at about the same distance as Jupiter, if not closer. I disagreed and spelt out my reasons why Planet X was nowhere close to returning. My 2006 book review (http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/planetxforecast.htm) resulted in an angry reaction from Marshall Masters himself, who has not spoken to me or emailed me since.
Whether their book was based upon a solid set of scientific assumptions or not, it can now be seen to be seriously flawed. Videos and other supporting evidence posted on the Internet over the last few years has claimed that images of sundogs and lens flares around the Sun prove that Planet X is upon us. It does not. They simply prove that some images taken of the Sun have lens flares and sundogs. For their book to have been correct, we are now at the stage when a second sun should be clearly visible. It is not. There's no getting around this now. A brown dwarf object closer than Jupiter would be a highly visible night-time object - certainly the brightest object in the night sky after the Moon. So where is it?
Now is the time for an earnest debate on this subject. There are many, many people who, influenced by the Planet X Forecast and other similar missives, still believe that the end of the Mayan Calendar augurs the castastrophic return of Nibiru. They are anxious, even fearful of this outcome. I want to put their minds at rest. I don't know what the end of 2012 will bring, but I know what is not going to happen - we will not see catastrophe at the hand of a brown dwarf closing in on perihelion. Those still arguing that it is, risk creating unnecessary panic and anxiety in a public already rocked by economic turmoil. They should recognise their error. The 2012 scenario has, predictably, caused the Planet X debate severe damage. NASA has been bombarded with questions from fearful members of the public, creating a feeding frenzy of scepticism that has damaged more considered arguments for the existence of another distant planet in our solar system. The public now perceive the claim for a Planet X body as being the hallmark of cranks.
I was right to argue against the 2012 scenario back in 2006, and I stand by the criticism I levelled at the Planet X Forecast book back then. That's my opinion as a researcher, but I also recognise that others have differing opinions. If they want to share them with me then I'm happy to hear them and include their points here on my website. I want the public to be able to access an honest, open debate on this subject as minds increasingly turn to this year's winter solstice.
Many thanks,
Andy Lloyd
Author and artist,
'The Dark Star Theory'
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk
'Cheltenham-Art.com'
http://cheltenham-art.com
http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=440880
Whether their book was based upon a solid set of scientific assumptions or not, it can now be seen to be seriously flawed. Videos and other supporting evidence posted on the Internet over the last few years has claimed that images of sundogs and lens flares around the Sun prove that Planet X is upon us. It does not. They simply prove that some images taken of the Sun have lens flares and sundogs. For their book to have been correct, we are now at the stage when a second sun should be clearly visible. It is not. There's no getting around this now. A brown dwarf object closer than Jupiter would be a highly visible night-time object - certainly the brightest object in the night sky after the Moon. So where is it?
Now is the time for an earnest debate on this subject. There are many, many people who, influenced by the Planet X Forecast and other similar missives, still believe that the end of the Mayan Calendar augurs the castastrophic return of Nibiru. They are anxious, even fearful of this outcome. I want to put their minds at rest. I don't know what the end of 2012 will bring, but I know what is not going to happen - we will not see catastrophe at the hand of a brown dwarf closing in on perihelion. Those still arguing that it is, risk creating unnecessary panic and anxiety in a public already rocked by economic turmoil. They should recognise their error. The 2012 scenario has, predictably, caused the Planet X debate severe damage. NASA has been bombarded with questions from fearful members of the public, creating a feeding frenzy of scepticism that has damaged more considered arguments for the existence of another distant planet in our solar system. The public now perceive the claim for a Planet X body as being the hallmark of cranks.
I was right to argue against the 2012 scenario back in 2006, and I stand by the criticism I levelled at the Planet X Forecast book back then. That's my opinion as a researcher, but I also recognise that others have differing opinions. If they want to share them with me then I'm happy to hear them and include their points here on my website. I want the public to be able to access an honest, open debate on this subject as minds increasingly turn to this year's winter solstice.
Many thanks,
Andy Lloyd
Author and artist,
'The Dark Star Theory'
http://www.darkstar1.co.uk
'Cheltenham-Art.com'
http://cheltenham-art.com
http://www.modelmayhem.com/member.php?id=440880
