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  • Angela, grand juries are not "oppressionism."  Every citizen is guaranteed due process and the right to face their accusers and given the right to a trial by jury.  Grand juries are required for prosecution of federal crimes by the 5th Amendment.  A grand jury is "a panel of citizens that is convened by a court to decide whether it is appropriate for the government to indict (proceed with a prosecution against) someone suspected of a crime."  See http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Grand+Jury.  

    Grand juries listen to evidence and decide if someone should be charged with a crime.  It does not pronounce guilt.  If the evidence the grand jury reviews suggests wrongdoing, the person will be indicted and go to a regular trial for the alleged offense(s). Some states also convene grand juries, but the trend has changed to just serious crimes in many state.  I know here in Virginia, grand juries are convened over drug charges, among other things.  Federal grand juries (which have more jurors than trial juries and convene for longer periods of time) have been a part of the criminal justice system since colonial times. 

    The grand jury is a safeguard.  "The U.S. Supreme Court, in Wood v. Georgia(1962), stated that the grand jury always

    has been regarded as a primary security to the innocent against hasty, malicious and oppressive persecution; it serves the invaluable function in our society of standing between the accuser and the accused … to determine whether a charge is founded upon reason or was dictated by an intimidating power or by malice and personal ill will. (p. 390)"

    http://www.answers.com/topic/grand-jury

    So, on the basis of that, if the grand jury had been convened based on bad politics, it was the grand jury's responsibility to make that decision and not allow the case to be prosecuted.  The grand jury is a protection for the accused against that sort of thing.  It is composed of 16-23 people screened and qualified by a judge for impartiality.  This provides a reasonable certainty that bias will not gain an upper hand.  Should it happen, a trial will be another device to ensure fairness and certitude of the truth.

    That's the first hurdle. A true bill was presented, meaning the grand jury found evidence of wrongdoing and it needs to go to trial to firmly settle the matter.  However, is there a judge/court that will enforce it? The evidence says probably not, given every court has refused to touch Obama over the birth certificate issue filed by private attorneys. That is a serious problem, that so many aggrieved citizens around the country have sought judicial redress and have been, every one, stonewalled by various excuses. It is obvious that our judicial system no longer functions fairly and impartially, but has been overshadowed by a higher power (meaning it has been seriously compromised and can no longer be trusted). Whether Obama would have been found guilty or not is not the issue here in this discussion. The issue is that aggrieved citizens couldn't even get to first base with it. Now, THAT's oppression: refusing to hear a legally cognizable case and allowing a jury to decide, based on hard evidence, the truth of the matter. 

    Here is the larger picture.  If we can no longer bring grievances to court, if the people don't have the standing to demand evidence POTUS is not a usurper, then anyone can now usurp the office of POTUS.  This statement in no way implies Obama is a usurper, simply because the facts have not been examined.  So if the courts are now acting in a manner which indicate that ordinary citizens can no longer have a reasonable expectation that the courts work on the basis of law, this country will devolve into wild west justice.  That is the path the courts' responses to birth certificate lawsuits has put us on. 

    Today, it's a win for Democrats, who have something to gain by the judiciary's misconduct. But tomorrow, these unlawful precedents you embrace today will start to affect all ordinary citizens.  That's me and you.  Democrat and Republican and third parties.  Justice has been unseated in the birth cert coup d'etat and We The People have been totally helpless to do anything about it. 

    Now, for a moment, reverse the roles.  How would you feel if it had been a Republican who had done it and you wanted to know for sure the truth of the matter?  Would you not have sought redress of your grievance, to which all American citizens have the right?  Would you not have become aggrieved at the lack of justice?  I think you (and other Democrats) would have reacted in a similar manner.

    The elites have turned a unified face to the people and have issued a resounding statement that will echo throughout the halls of history that they are our masters now and they will decide who will be brought to justice and who will not.  How soon will our masters decide to dispense with juries and just conduct bench trials (meaning the judge is the jury)?  Or just suspend the Constitution altogether?  God help us all.

  • LOL, oh  you  mean  like  the Congress and  Obama with  their NDAA?

  • How is it legal for a Citizen's group to find someone guilty without the defendants there to defend themselves? Or doesn't anyone think that trials are needed? This is another attempt to convict and find fault without knowing all the facts...typical oppressionism...

  • Me to!

  • Indeed Cheryl , I  agree.

  • Truth has been so twisted for so long, no one knows what the real truth is any longer.  Best advice I've seen in a long time is to be in the world, but not a part of it. 

  • On all levels W,T,People are being chopped down,only those in the fold are being tucked in, they will be slaves later but for now they believe that they are the mink! So they Believe! I try my best to send Light to the ones that are calling the shots to help turn the tide!

    Cheers

  • Oh it's  a well known  fact  we  have  been   sold up the  river  to  the  UN and  our  sovereignty violated.  Codex Alimentarius is  proof  enough  of that.  DSHEA is still on the books  but it is  only  a matter of  time  as   Code  Alimentarius nullifies  our right  to  choose the  foods we eat  and  our right  to  alternative and natural therapy.supplementation. Including   vitamins.

  • If Main Stream Media aloud it then just to push peoples buttons, so low level energy can be produced to feed upon. Anything to drag the energy level down!

    The US Government has been working from the UN Constitution for yrs. That is why We The People are not getting any support, just the Big Boys, & Corp's are getting support!

    http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/proposed-un-environmental...

    And Charter

    http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/

  • The  Constitution of The United  States  Of  America is the  Constitution I was  referring to . I have  no idea what the UN Constitution  is nor  what  it   entails.

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