There are a few things here I would take issue with or at least ask a few questions about. My own sources, and Amy has been given these says this object is about four Jupiter masses, and the four earth mases is assumed to be disinfo, or at least a wrong assumption  made by Harrington.

Now, if this object is between ourselves and the sun, or anywhere in the vicinity, and based on Jim maccaneys models and reasoning which I believe to be pin point accurate, there would by now be huge, indeed massive solar storms engulfing the earth. This object and assuming it is a brown dwarf and going off historical records, has an iron or iron Nickel core, at least there is ferrite in it and maybe a massive layer of ferrite on its surface or in a cloud around it. This we can infer  from the story of the Israelites and Moses, though I think a lot of that is myth, though the central facts can be ascertained from the Ipuhwar manuscript amongst others.

So, we must tighten up our reasoning and assumptions. It is my belief if this object is real and is anywhere near to us, it is either on the far side of the sun waiting our presence there maybe this or next summer, or, it is as yet in the Mars /Jupiter orbit, and may be currently crossing this plane hence the twerm, planet of the crossing.

Now, as far as ZT goes, I have many issues here. Where do you get the idea the Pentagon reads this website ,  daily for updates? Maybe for a few laughs and jokes on the gullibility of its readership, and the sheer brazenness of the person who writes this website. I have read it many times and there is a lot of value therein, but again it makes assumptions we are in no way able to prove nor disprove. NL , the leader of the website may well be a contactee and my source who has vanished now says she is genuine, and her facts are genuine. . Again we have no way of knowing this and are left once again making assumptions.

so, the only thing we have left are the edicts passed by Obama, and a stupidly compliant congress-- or do they know something we are not privy to- and we also have the  FEMA camps and the many underground bases. .

Quite frankly from my own point of view, and perspective, there are far to many so called facts and less solid information that can tie any of these together.

My own postilion is to read and listen and enjoy  whilst getting prepared mentally spiritually and physically which is most  important, for we are like the powers that be playing a waiting game and we must be patient and still enjoy life all the same. Live each day and enjoy it. Many are not able to, many do not know how to, and prefer to hide within the shadows of fear and Closed minds, and live with conspiracy theories written on their sleeves. I do not refer to anyone on this forum but make only a generalized point.

One thing that does make me think is this. If this large object was discovered in 1983, I believe by Harrington, where was it then, where has it bean on its journey to the inner solar system, and where is it now? If we have its orbit trajectory, we can say a few things about it. First it is coming from the outer solar system with its speed differentially increasing. We need to know its initial velocity,at say, just outside the  planet Plutos orbit, To me Pluto is a planet!!!)   the  kuiper belt, . next we need to ascertain its interaction with the gas giants, as it enters the asteroid belt, all these factors will interplay with each other. It is bound it slow down near Jupiter Saturn and Uranus.

next we need t ascertain how its speed will increase once it is past Jupiter and Saturn and Uranus, after it has crossed the planetary ecliptic it must be increasing its speed.. so, what date was it at its mid point shall we say?

then we need to know   where earth was at this time, thus we then have a  calculation as to how its orbit will affect the earths as the earth goes round the sun. Now, this object may interact on two occasions or it my interact when it is at its farthest point from the sun, and the earth catches up to it, in  summer or autumn, as the earth rotates  around the sun, it will then interact  where this object begins speeding up again and leaving the vicinity of the sun for its return journey out of the  solar system.

so, where are we now? it is made more complicated by the fact the earth and the solar system are traversing the galactic plane which is a once in a hundred thousand year event, not the exact  the exact time frame. anyhow, there are said to be severe torsion field stresses acting upon the earths core, and this is one interpretation of the earth changes at present.

Now if this giant object is anywhere near us, it will have dual effects . . it will have an electromagnetic effects on the sun causing massive solar storms, it will also have an effect upon our orbit, and movement around our axis of rotation. it will have a major effect upon the magnetosphere and will cause a pole shift, along with a crustal slip  and axis tilt, pulling the south pole of earth towards I believe the north magnetic pole of planet x,

I could go on about mountain building, gravity waves, about the shift of the earth with respect to the oceans ,  thus we have coastal and inland flooding. On and on an on.

In the end the imminence of these changes are determined /guessed  from what little data we have, backed by the circumstantial  evidence of the geopolitic situation, and the ensuing police state in all major countries, , it does seem to all tie together.

so, I continue to read and study and listen, but am lighthearted about it. I live on the  periphery of society, it may be quite different for those with jobs and mortgages. those who are entrenched in some way in the system. those who are glued to the media taking what they hear as truth instead of some a paradigm of belief. Read from a poorly written script.

I believe the best and most we can do, is to get prepared on all levels, have a few weeks supply at least of food, a source of fresh water and a water filter, and if things start to deteriorate, and we see signs that say these events are for real, then we can take things to another level altogether. and in the end, simply enjoy life, spring is here and summer not far way, and the only way to live life is in the present.

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  • I read through just about everything that has been said and what keeps coming to mind is simply we don't know.  It could easily be much further out than we realize still having an impact on our solar system but not visible to the naked eye.  Our ancestors were experts at astronomy, we are just starting to grasp how good they were.  I personally believe in PX but I also believe that not wanting it to exist is a good thing not a bad thing.  CATACLYSM carries a huge connotation that is beyond imaging, I so don't want anything dealing with Nibiru to ever happen.  Nor do I want a polar shift, WW3, NWO, and a few others.  Just my thoughts... Manifest Reality.....

  • Cheryl, I agree with you. which side of the jewel d you wish t look, trouble is is the jewel real ot not? sadly the one thing we can truly believe  in is our immediate reality, all these are mere stories and have no means at all of verification unless the truth appears in front of us. better to remain open minded and see what comes. if the sun rises this morning and it is arm, thats enough for me.

  • From what I gather, Keith, there is so much the galactics can do because of lessons needing to be learned and to not violate our free will.  They have a plan and they are working it.  We have seen SOHO images of ships bigger than Earth out there, so I've begun to think maybe it is possible to stop a planet. 

    I've noticed some galactics don't ever mention earth changes, a few make passing mentions, and some discuss PX (like Mythi).  It makes me wonder if PX is a red herring or if ascension will happen before it arrives, so is a non-issue.

  • The actual position of Planet X is very much like a puzzle. We read that it is coming, but can only be seen in Infra-Red. It was close to Jupiter a little while ago. Then it was stopped and it trajectory was changed. Then it was put back into orbit but pass us as to avoid major catastrophes. Now it is coming from the south pole. It could be anywhere by now. It is impossible that People in the know are clueless of where the planet is.

  • Completely and utterly agree. How  can any seventy year old woman find the money the time,  to do  the research, to do what the leader of the website does? unless she has a huge and well informed team behind her, 9  hiw about NASA/pentagon/NSA?it is almost if not impossible. The chap i spoke to via email, ex military, says she is real and is a contactee, I think she is or was, but so much is anomalous. there are better sources of information. I think the Bill Xam videos with Boris Artemnko tell us a lot more about what is actually going on. Boris has actual links to a team of scientists researching these things.

  • Nicholas, I think that story about the Pentagon hovering over the alien data trough is disinformation.  Someone has a vivid imagination.  The government and those alleged aliens are on the same team. 

    No, I don't think the force behind the alien data trough is genuine.  Not at all.  However, that force is very dominant and weak minds succumb easily. 

  • Kim, Harrington went to the south pole to view it, so that lends credence to its position being under the ecliptic.  If PX/HMO/BDS, whatever it is, has pierced the ecliptic and is between the Earth and the Sun, we'd be in the passage.  Look at the storms on Saturn, which is a much larger planet than Earth. 

  • Mythi says it is underneath the earth.  Question is, WHO is right???  Too much disinfo out there to sift through.

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