Since this blog was posted, we've done some investigating.  Read the original blog.  Below it are updates that show the findings of the investigations....



The time prediction failed and this isn't something that shocked the world.  This news isn't widespread in the media, even if it was the world would not be shocked.  Concerned, troubled, but not shocked.  I still think the prediction is man-based, not Zeta based, but at least here is some independent confirmation.  {Sorry, this article is not independent confirmation, just regurgitation of ZetaTalk.}

Tectonic changes are now coming in fast succession.

  1. Pakistan has officially lost land elevation.
  2. Bangkok, Thailand is also experiencing difficulty in getting flood waters to drain off.
  3. Jakarta, Indonesia on the Island of Java is sinking as roads and land along the drainage canals is collapsing.
  4. Viet Nam is witness to an epidemic of sinkholes, another indication of land and tectonic plate subduction.
  5. The Philippines Tectonic Plate is now sinking with flooding reported. 

What is now being reported the Indo-Australia tectonic plate began to tilt on the western region on that tectonic plate where Pakistan is today located.  As the land subsided, the flood waters were now trapped. The news that has not been reported is that much of this flooded region will never be recovered, for it is now permanently under water in Pakistan’s new lake district; no homes, no farms, no crops, and now starvation.

The tilting of the Indo-Australian Plate caused an adjustment in the sub-oceanic regions as far as the KTT (Kermadee Tonga Trench) when in September 3, 2010, the sub-oceanic trench that runs straight across New Zealand’s 3rd largest city, Christchurch, a large 7.4 magnitude earthquake devastated large portions of their beautiful city.  This tectonic adjustment put pressure on the “tongue” of the Eurasian Plate pushing down into Indonesia and that island nation began to sink. This again has not been reported in the international news.

Six months later, December, 2010, the Earth Observatory, operated by NASA admitted that with comparing satellite images of Pakistan from 2010 and one year earlier, the elevation of Pakistan had dropped – 10 feet. 


UPDATE 01/27/2011 Google Earth screen shots of the shore near Kronja, Indonesia: 



These show the coastline near Kronjo, Indonesia.  The current images show some loss of coastline from 2006.  However, it appears the coastline started disappearing in 2008 and 2009.  Another thing to note is the large river emptying into the ocean.  It is muddy and the lost shoreline appears to be covered with a similar color water.  So, could the lost shoreline be due, in whole or in part, to runoff of excessive rains coming from the river? 


UPDATE 02/05/2011:

KeithH did some investigation and posted his findings in the comments below.  I am copying them here for ease in finding them:

I have discovered some very interesting information concerning the images that have been used supporting the sinking of Indonesia. 

1. The images that are used are verified by TruEarth to be from the circa year 2000.  The disclaimer page at TruEarth also states this fact in addition to further clarification from their website.




So the images used from approximately the Year 2000 confirms the sinking of Indonesia? I think not. Comparing images from the year 2000 to claim a 20 foot drop in elevation for the entire North Coast of Java now, the only thing I can deduce is current flooding during the Monsoon Season. Tragic of course, but not unusual.

Anyone could forecast heavy rains and flooding during the Monsoon Season and be correct.

2. Due to the low lying elevation and overcrowding of Jakarta, talk of moving the capital has been discussed for many years. The drainage system was built by the Dutch at least a century ago.


The Sea Level Monitoring site has no stations on the North side of Java. No evidence to support the claims that the entire North Coast of Java is sinking.

During the Monsoon Season, one can expect some flooding. Even when a levee breaks, the levee was probably built to keep the sea in check. Logically, sea level would rise and fall at predicted high and low if the levee had been breeched.

Here is a link to Jakarta traffic web cams: Not much evidence of flooding there.

If the situation in Jakarta was so dire, why hasn’t Janet Jackson canceled her scheduled concert performance on February 9, 2011?

Media blackout? How can anyone black out any information that is not substantiated? If nothing is going on, there is nothing to report.

That leads me to the question of why NL is grasping at every small tidbit of information to support her theories. We can only guess. The truth always stands up to scrutiny.

She keeps saying to look at the satellite pictures and the images are over 11 years old!!!

I am sure I will be labeled as a government disinformation artist and shrill, baboon that slings feces, and on the verge of a nervous breakdown. This is only because I question her statements. She has no other response.

She has quoted NASA on the Indonesia post, NASA, whom she has claimed in the past, and raised suspicions, which she claims is not telling the truth. Doesn’t one find this odd? Now she wants to use NASA as source of her statements.

She also stated that it is expected that she may not be able to use these images much longer on the Zetatalk Newsletter a scheme to incite someone to claim these claims were not true and giver her a further way out? Appears to be disinformation on her part.

Her latest Newsletter ignored Issue 225, only to avert focus on South America. Next week it maybe North America. Possibly predict a major earthquake in Japan?? That has already been happening.

I challenge her to prove that Indonesia and the Philippines are sinking, without quoting Zetatalk.  I have seen no evidence to the contrary.

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  • Hmm....I wonder how will she ever get to 10 when she's still stuck in 7.

    She is nailing her own coffin. She can't start talking about 8 can she if Indonesia still there?   

  • I guess Paul wanted to make a little joke. Nancy Lieder is a pathetic internet troll, spreading a lot of lies. They can only keep that house of "black lies" (this are no white lies) and failed predictions up with strict censorship.


    Most of the moderators over there - as long as they are no fake accounts - seem to have lost every link to reality.

    Gerard Zwaan even wanted to introduce some dictators/criminals as Ahmadinedschad and Chavez as the grand STOs of the Zetas. I guess they are his example for the way he tries to manage his ning-ding-bunch-of lies. These people are even archeenemies of the USA and most democratic countries. And Zwaan seems to admire them. No wonder that he claimed to be hit by the xmashammer at the end of 2010. He probably was the only one being hit and you can still see the consequences in his strange actions. Zwaan is a real lunatic and weirdo.


    And yes, Kim, 7 of 10 really sounds like a scene of a starwars movie. In the end the outcome was the same, but star wars movies at least had a good concept. Lieder`s poor 7 of 10 has nothing. I guess Nancy had seven of nine in her mind as she pronounced her 7 of 10 hoax.

    Jeri-Ryan-Seven-of-Nine-Voyager.jpgIndeed seven of nine looks far better than the ten year old google images Nancy wanted to abuse to prove her lame duck fairytale.


    Or Nancy had seven longdrinks and thought to herself that ten could be definitely too much for her. I guess even seven were far beyond her limit. Welcome to seven of 10 and some greetings from seven of 9...;)

    5704384726374976.jpgAnd one thing is definitely real, my own private prediction: Before we ever see Nancy`s Nobiru, we will see ten starships of the Borg. And Captain Kirk will attack them with his Enterprise.














  • " to me Nancy is part of the making of the new 'One' earth"

    Ye gads before that would happen she's gotta a lot of work to do on how to treat others.......

  • Thank  you  Paul for the  clarification  :)
  • ...and Sonny no... no fear re Nancy apart from what some would have us believe ... they are members of the Council of Saturn indeed the sub group of this same council's messages from Andromeda .. and no no conflict just different ways of looking at the same thing 


    Paul,  exactly  who are  the  "some " you are  referring  to.  As  I  believe the  large  majority  of those  here  have  had  direct  contact with  Nancy  and  her  group.  We  are  very  clear  on what  we  have  seen and  experienced at the hands of  said group as  well as  their white lies and  failed predictions.  Not to  mention their  tyrannical behavior.  Therefore  I  am  very  curious  as  to the  "some would have us believe ..." actually  are.  I am sure  we  are  all  curious  as  to  whom  you  are  referring to. Therefore, if  you  could enlighten us , I   would be  most  grateful.

  • 7 of 10 sounds like a borg designation off of the series STAR TREK. lol

    I just checked her site on someone else device and boy they have become so pathetic! Only blind faithers following her and most members who participate are new comers. The site has ran out of intelligent discussions and probably people as well. There was this member expressing a sense of hopelessness of how can anyone survive a poleshift he was threatened straight away of being a debunker!

    There you have a community of FEAR and the comments posted reflecting that. most of them are just agreeing and patting each others back kind of comments esp. to Nancy. Congratulation NL you have achieve Godess status in your own world at last where everybody kneels and bows infront of you sitting in high perch.

    (I thought I would never care to comment on NL anymore but after checking her ning after many months, its so pathetic I just can't help it, sorry)  7 of 10? what the heck is that?

  • Oopsie, looks like  somebody  missed the  Continental  Breakfast !!
  • It's true.  The world didn't fall apart when she said it would.  How many lies can people take before they wake up and smell the bacon burning?
  • I guess it is time for some facts. Half a year is over now and we should have a look what happened with the predictions of Nancy Lieder concerning the so called 7 of 10 prank.


    Now, half a year later, the biggest part of Indonesia should be under water (up to 80 foot). But a hoax can not cause the sinking of land. This is what remains of the lame 7 of 10 predictions. First Nancy claimed that the sinking process should be finished in 2-3 weeks. As nothing happened she said that the whole process would take up to 12 weeks. She even claimed in March that some airports there are already sinking.

    The planes are of course still starting and landing there, because there is no sinking at all in Indonesia. Some temporary floods which are typical for this country in the rain period are meanwhile all gone again. So what did happen in Indonesia?


    The pure fact is that nothing happened. The whole 7 of 10 scenario was a big hoax with which Lieder tried to betray here followers. She wanted to give them some action after all the other predictions for the year 2010 failed. In real life this action was some virtual hoaxytainment (the word infotainment would be wrong here).


    There are no news about the sinking of land in Indonesia. Thousands of tourists - especially from Australia - go there to spend their holidays. They will be there next year too, - to have a peaceful and relaxed time with their families. This is all what happened and will happen in Indonesia.


    People who still dont want to believe this or are afraid of travelling can simply verify the real facts by watching the numerous webcams in Indonesia.


    The real facts of Indonesia! Click here!


    Even the buoys Lieder and her followers abused to "prove" the sinking of Indonesia (together with very old google earth pics) at the beginning of this year show no changes at all.


    And if you read the latest news about Indonesia in the Jakarta Post you will see that the people in this mostly poor country worry about the Murdoch scandal, anti-corruption programmes or the eggs of sea turtles. These are probably apart from the tough economic situation of these country the most important facts these people have to concerned about. No one of them will be interested in the hoax-factory Zetatalk aka Nancytalk.


    So we have to resume that the whole 7 of 10 scenario of Nancy Lieder was another big hoax to fool poor innocent people. Nancy Lieder is an internet troll heading for pranking poor people who still believe what she says. But meanwhile too many people have rumbled Nancy and her stuff.


    Let us hope that more and more persons look through this house of lies and use their sanity and reason to get out of this strange cult. Nancy is an internet troll and more and more people are rocognizing this.



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