We have enough details to form a conclusion....

On the issue of NZT being a credible source of information, I have researched enough and seen enough to know, without a shadow of doubt, that NZT is not a credible source of information. 

Thus, I feel it is a disservice to our members to continue any discussions of, or referrals to, NZT.  Does anyone have a different viewpoint?  If so, please share it (civilly), with supporting proof, so we can discuss it because I am ready to shut the door on it. 

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  • Kim, can you direct us to the Marian Visionary links?
  • Doesn't sound like it.  She's just retreating into her castle and pulling up the drawbridge.  Sounds like her "team" are the gators in the moat.

    I notice a change in tenor wherein she used to scoff at "being old" and bragged about how she was going to be hobbling around in the Aftertimes helping out.  Now she is suddenly becoming "frail." 

    Sounds like an exit strategy to me, for obvious reasons.

  • Certain marian visionaries did prophecize mass fish die offs.  OOps, I better not say more as nzt might start borrowing from those prophecies!
  • ZT is not banned here, but as you say, there's nothing worth discussing.  There are a lot of things going on that have never been mentioned in ZT, and then the obsession with a tectonic plate movement that didn't come to pass. 

    It is apparent that these days ZT can only "predict" that which is within the knowledge of man, such as a possible plate movement.  It would have been more prescient if the mass animal die-offs had been predicted, something man's  technology obviously didn't see coming.

  • Thanks edina for telling me how to get my ip add. it  was so easy.

    I agree with your comments Sizzle regarding NZT.

  • No one will be suspended for lack of an IP address unless they have been contacted and they ignore our requests.  We understand that there are some that are not very familiar with computers and we are available to help in any way we can. So please feel free to contact us if you have any questions or doubts.

    ;D

  • Hi catherine, no worries, it's pretty tough to be suspended from this site, if you live by the Golden Rule, and I imagine you do just that.

    Go to myipaddress.com, you'll find your IP number there.

    I agree with you, I try to read everything with my eyes wide open, too. I sometimes think this emphasis on personal response-ability and the development of discernment are essential for our next stage of development.  Without the willingness to stand in our own power, and the ability to tell truth from lies, it is impossible to in be integrity with the Big T-Truth, or our highest principles.  I imagine that these two character traits are needed before we can fully develop our Will, the Spirit Will, rather than the ego will, that will is fairly well developed now. 

    And it has occurred to me that it is through the use of our Will that we will begin to exercise our creative capacities.  I'm certain it wouldn't be too wise of Wisdom to let a lot of irresponse-able, indiscrimating weak-willed souls run amok with their full creative capacities turned on, we would likely get something like,... oh, I don't know... ___________ I'll let you fill in the blank, ;-)

  • I have in the past read and believed NZT thank God I found this site, I now use discernment with everything I read.

    I am not very good with computers, and don't know what an IP number is, so I am worried that I will be suspended again.

    This site is important to me, I read it every day for news around the world.

  • I'm thinking now that ZT falls into the same category as Sorcha Faal; not censored but a warning should be given to read with discernment.
  • (LOL - Wouldn't it be keen if NL came here needing intervention?)  msred, this is not out of the picture btw, based oninfo I received in a meditation over 3 years ago, it could be a real
    possibility.  But, for now, such an idea here is too controversial, the
    wounds are too fresh, and raw.

    I've been thinking about something that Jason M said, about our "mission" here.  First off, this Ning is owned by Cheryl.  But to thebest of my knowledge her mission is stated clearly in her Welcome message with an emphasis placed on:

    "Free Speech as moderated by the Golden Rule."

    It seems to me that censorship in any form is actually counter to the mission here, rather than supportive of it. Eric J has posted a great
    video from NASA, on the Pole Shift Ning, this video would not be allowed
    to be posted under the guise/reasoning that NASA has already been proven to put out deliberate disinformation.  If I remember correctly, this is why Amy Evans blog there was pulled from PSN with minutes of her post,
    and she was banned before she could even become a real member.  If we had done something similar, just imagine what our loss would have been.  I know people who read ZT daily.  They are independent minded people and no one is ever going todictate to them what they can, or can not read.  Because of this I was made aware of an interesting post over at NZT where people from all over where describing the recent unusual behavior they have been noticing in their animals, lately.  To me this is very interesting when I
    considerthe discussion we've had here, and George Ure has had on UrbanSurvival about the dead birds, and fish.  I have always been saddened that the decision from Gerard and/or Nancy has been to ban any mention of EarthChangers NIng on their site, because I often felt we complemented each other.  I would be even more saddened if we chose to take on a similar closed-mind, and closed-heart stand.

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