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This started out as a response to the recent Channelings blog where I was discussing what I felt was a fatal flaw in the Mythi saga (sheltering under rocky ledges or rock outcroppings during solar flares).  I feel this is an important topic and am reposting it as a blog to get more exposure....

Both solar radiation (in flares, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_flares) and nuclear radiation are electromagnetic and contain gamma rays (biologically hazardous component of fallout, see http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p916.htm).  While I don't know if the intensities are the same between solar and nuclear bombs, I would play it as safe as possible when researching shelters.  Remember, a planet-x-type object is heavily electromagnetic and its influence should be factored in, as well. 

What information I've found pertains to nuclear blasts and resulting fallout, and the worst danger is in the gamma rays (a penetrating form of radiation) from fallout.  You need a barrier with at least three feet of dirt (or two feet of concrete) all around to effectively shield from radiation.  Even in fallout shelters that have a small doorway, you have to stay away from that area because the radioactive particles bounce around and can get inside and kill you.* 

To me, Mythi's solution to get up under rocks when solar flares hit sounded like a "shallow trench" solution... deficient in significant ways.  (The second red flag was him saying that the px-type-object was only 38 days behind.  When PX is that close, there will be no doubt of its existence... anywhere on this planet.  By that statement, it should only be 16 days away from us today.  Has anything changed radically to indicate the rapid approach of that monster?  No.  Is it going to happen by Thanksgiving (38 days from Oct. 17th)?  No, so enjoy your holidays.)

* http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p916.htm:

"The trenches for entry and emergency exit were dug only 22 inches wide, to minimize radiation entering the shelter through these openings."

"The family sat and slept along the left wall, to be better shielded from radiation coming through the openings."

Fig. 5.3. Simplified illustration of barrier shielding and skyshine (scattered gamma radiation). An open trench provides poor protection. ORNL.DWG 78.7205:

"... the man in the trench would not be protected from "skyshine," which is caused by gamma rays scattering after striking the nitrogen,oxygen, and other atoms of the air. The man's exposed head, which is just below ground level, would be hit by about one-tenth as many gamma rays as if it were 3 feet above ground (Fig. 5.3). Even if all fallout could be kept out of the trench and off the man and every part of the ground within 3 feet of the edges of the trench, skyshine from heavy fallout on the surrounding ground could deliver a fatal radiation dose to the man in the open trench."  (This emphasizes another reason the shallow-trench theory is deficient.)

"Skyshine reaches the ground from all directions. If the man were sitting in a deeper trench, he would escape more of this scattered radiation, but not all of it. For good protection he must be protected overhead and on all sides by barrier shielding."

This next sketch shows how any kind of overhead cover (rock or dirt) is insufficient to fully protect a person.  Even if you only receive "small" doses, how much does it take to cause cancer or even death?

Fig. 5.5. Skyshine coming into a shelter through a vertical entry would be mostly absorbed while turning into and traveling down the entryway trench. ORNL.DWG 78-7204 :

If you are familiar with the ZetaTalk trench shelter, please read this first blog as it talks about the deficiencies inherent in that design.
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-analysis-are-trench.

These next blogs are culminations of group efforts and cover as many scenarios as we could think of and modifications that could make the shallow trench shelter a more secure shelter. 

A Plastic Tunnel -- A Way To Avoid Electrocution by Ground Electricity
earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ideas-for-bunkers-a-plastic-tunnel-portable-ideal-for-those-who

 
Another Idea For A Trench Shelter
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-idea-for-a-trench

The issue of radiation (solar or nuclear) was raised and this blog talks about it and how to protect yourself:

Yet More About The Inadequacies Of Shallow Trench Shelters
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zetatalk-yet-more-about-the-inadequacies-of-shallow-trench

This was my original version of a enhanced shallow trench shelter, with a ferro-cement dome:
My Idea Of A Trench Shelter
https://earthchanges.ning.com/group/survivalinformation/forum/topics/my-idea-of-a-trench-shelter 
(Sorry, the link to the sunlife site still works but the information is no longer available.  You can look around for another site with plans to build a ROUND dome--don't go geodesic, it is reported there are high divorce rates associated with it, thus it seems to amplify bad vibes.)

Other options:

Mini blast & fallout shelter-good for tornadoes, storage, etc.
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/mini-blast-amp-fallout

Earthbag Structures
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/shelters-earthbags
Resistant to earthquakes, flooding, severe weather

Ferro-Cement Structures
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/ferrocement-shelters-amp-boats
Extremely strong.

DuPont's Kevlar Bunkers

https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/duponts-kevlar-bunkers-offer

Tornado Safe Room
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tornado-safe-room

Pet Shelters
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/pet-shelters-the-1000-year

Mini Noah's Ark Shelters
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/09/30/noah-ark-japan-tsunami.html
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tsunami-fears-fuel-sale-of-mini-noah-s-arks

Mark, a moderator from poleshift.ning and staunch ZetaTalk devotee, posed this question:  

His original question and my original response is located at:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/china-mirageswhats-the-truth.

Of course, Mark, I don't claim to have come up with the concept of a trench shelter covered with a metal or sod roof, but neither is the concept original with Troubled Times/Zetatalk. Trench shelters have been used in many wars because they are relatively quick to construct and provide protection.  This article is based on source materials dating back to French military operations in 1914-1918.  See http://www.151ril.com/content/history/french-army/15.  For your convenience, here are some relevant quotes: 

This article is about: "The subject of French army shelters and dugouts (along with trench construction in general)...."

The materials used to construct trench shelters: "The primary materials used in shelter construction in the French army were logs or wood poles, rocks and dirt. To a lesser degree, planks, sandbags, corrugated sheets of metal, steel rails and iron sheets were used."

Trenches for higher ranking officers is then discussed before coming to the lesser quality trenches for the common man's, the foot soldiers', trench shelters: "Last on the pecking order were the foot-soldiers. The conditions of their shelters varied, but in general they proved woefully inadequate for most of the war. Improvements only started coming about in the fall of 1917 to meet the demands of rebellious, discontent soldiers. Materials used in the construction of the foot-soldiers' shelter normally included sticks, wattles, gabions, and sheets of corrugated metal. To a lesser degree, sandbags, small logs, and planks might be employed. Universally, these shelters were dark, dank, filthy, vermin-infested holes or shacks that brought misery to every soldier."

How sturdy are trench shelters? "Inclement conditions such as heavy rains and mud, often lead to the shelters collapsing."

On sod/metal roofs: "Alternately, a section of covered trench could be used as shelter, consisting of a simple roof of light logs or poles laid across the top of the trench, covered over with a layer of sandbags or earth up to a foot thick. However, abundant examples exist of less reinforced covered trenches that consisted only of a layer of light logs or a panel of corrugated metal straddling the trench."

On the subject of sod (contrasted to just plain dirt): "Shelters for soldiers in the rear were often just as inadequate and miserable as those up at the front.... A crossbeam pole rested between these, which supported the roof of poles or light logs, covered over with hay, straw and/or sod."

Now, imagine lying in a shallow trench with such a roof with winds and rain at the high end of this demonstration:  http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_national/hurricanesHistoryNew/index.html?SITE=FLPAP&SECTION=HOME.  How safe would you really be?

This is a fascinating article which everyone should read in its entirety for more ideas on how to build a trench shelter, plans that have been field tested.

Prof. McCanney says a lot of water will be coming in during the passage, lots of hydrocarbons mixed in (meaning polluted water), and ancient texts and geologic records confirm the same. As the French learned from experience, trench shelters turn into mud and collapse. So, Mark, the solution Zetatalk proposes not only did not originate with them, but is being disseminated as a solution, when in fact it is neither a solution, nor is it safe in the context of the extremes that will be generated by the object following behind Comet Elenin. Because I care about people, I am going to great lengths to try and make the trench shelter concept safer and healthier, as well as more comfortable as well as possible.

Also, please pause to consider that if you had posted at poleshift.ning what you posted here, except praising this ning, you would have been banned from poleshift.ning in a heartbeat.  But you weren't.  You were able to enjoy freedom of speech, which this ning promotes.  It's such a more pleasant atmosphere here.  And, look, you learned something.  Why?  Because you were able to ask questions, even though in a bit of an aggressive manner.  Education is important here.  What if we had just banned you.  You wouldn't have learned that your solution (if you are electing the trench shelter option) is fatally defective.  Think of all the people who will be relying on the ZT solution.  Most are going to die when their shelters disintegrate into a puddle of mud.  Now do you understand why I analyze?  Banning questions is just deflection because the material does not stand up under scrutiny. 

Think about it, Mark.  You are one of the few that has come here and can see we are not what she says we are.  Did you know I have run an earthchanges website and yahoogroup since 2003 (and continue to do so)?  I don't need any help.  I was sent to help Gerard.  Did you know Nancy and I were Gerard's first admins?  When I came on board in early January 2010, the membership was under 300; when I left, it was over 1,600?  I know Nancy drew a lot of attention because of her longevity on the internet, but did you know that during the time I was there that I referred over 700 members of my yahoogroup to poleshift.ning?  Did they tell you that poleshift ning's rules were written by me, in concert with discussions with Nancy and Gerard?  And why do you think Nancy bemoaned the loss of all my blogs?  They were substantial.  Did you know Nancy encouraged any poleshift ning member to commit theft by recovering one of my blogs and downloading two others without my permission and that they lost three copyright infringement claims because of their theft?  Who's copying whom?  I have documentation for all of this.  And do I sound crazy, post-nervous-breakdown, weak, and all the false ZT she's proclaimed on me.  Not hardly.  I've been here almost every day since I left poleshift.ning.  If you didn't know any of this, then you are only getting one side of the picture. 

UPDATE 6/30/2011:  Also realize that rolling would be caused by slip faults, which create a sideways motion and may not be the only type of earthquake.  I lived through the Northridge Earthquake, five miles from epicenter, and it was a thruster, which creates an up and down motion--a more violent earthquake--which causes your body to fly up into the air and then gravity brings you back down, and this would be a repetitive motion, thus more potential for damage.  Mountain building is a thruster-type earthquake.  The power at play would be like throwing a rag doll into the air and letting it land where it will, but with much more mass and breakable objects in the human body than a rag doll.  A better analogy would be throwing a carton of eggs into the air and see how many don't break after it lands a few times.

UPDATE 8/28/3011:  See http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p916.htm for information on how to construct a pole-covered trench that would shield from radiation.

To recap, the idea of a trench shelter is to get you below surface level to get out of the wind (and all the debris blowing in it), without going too deep that earthquakes could bury you.  Okay, so that takes care of wind and earthquakes.  The idea of a metal roof is to prevent fire on your roof from incoming flammable gasses that may ignite near you, fireballs, firestorms, etc.  Covering the roof in sod gives more protection, as a strong grass root system can keep the roof from blowing away and puts more barrier between you and solar radiation and fire.  Be aware, though, that sod/dirt is very heavy and it doesn't take much to weigh a ton.  Thus, it is important that you have enough underlying support to keep any sod/dirt covered roof from collapsing.  Another thing to consider is pressure.  With the passage, it is unknown if pressures will change.  The only thing I can relate this to is the pressure created in a nuclear blast.  So, what looks like good support under normal conditions might not be under adverse conditions.  This is why I urge you to make your roof as strong as you can possibly get it and seek professional help (like an engineer) to make sure it's safe. 

We also talk about toileting in a small space for an extended length of time, which is a closely related topic.  So, let's get going...

Human bodies tend to get sick if kept cold for too long and there will be a lot of rain during this event, as well as temperatures dropping because the event is expected to happen in the fall to winter time of year.  You will end up sick from a respiratory infection from being in the rain for days or weeks.  You need to keep warm and dry, as well as prevent debris from hitting you or breathing thick dust. 

You also need to prevent scrapes and bruises and broken bones as much as possible, which could happen from being tossed around by the earthquakes.  Vehicles are designed for impacts harder than a human body can tolerate and will provide more protection than if you were just rolling around in a shallow trench with no protection at all.  In fact, the seat belts will keep you from rolling and will prevent more injuries of that type and would be a reasonable solution to these issues.  Also realize that rolling would be caused by slip faults, which create a sideways motion and may not be the only type of earthquake.  I lived through the Northridge Earthquake, five miles from epicenter, and it was a thruster, which creates an up and down motion--a more violent earthquake--which causes your body to fly up into the air and then gravity brings you back down, and this would be a repetitive motion, thus more potential for damage.  Mountain building is a thruster-type earthquake.  The power at play would be like throwing a rag doll into the air and letting it land where it will, but with much more mass and breakable objects in the human body than a rag doll.  A better analogy would be throwing a carton of eggs into the air and see how many don't break after it lands a few times.

Another benefit in using a vehicle is that it has a metal roof, which would act as a secondary or back-up to the trench roof, in case the exterior roof gets blown away.  Of course, the windows would need to be fortified.  In the aftertimes, the vehicle would be a warmer space (earth temperature, but not freezing) to live in until spring, by barricading the open end of the trench with dirt and leaving a smaller opening to go in an out.

My latest idea is to get a very strong car like a Volvo or one of the older vehicles, like a Ford LTD Crown Victoria circa 1984 or earlier, that have steel frames.  Another idea is an old Chevy Suburban or a van, the kind with the barn doors in the back which would make for an alternate exit if the side doors become unusable.  Or even, as DuaneR suggested, an armored car, if you have the opportunity to score one.  Also, have a tool that could cut through the top of the vehicle, just in case.  Suburbans can be found with diesel engines, which for the mechanically inclined could be useful in the aftertimes. The vehicle doesn't have to run, you can buy it cheap and have it towed if close enough to your location. 

Dig your trench about three to four feet deep, or up to the windows of your vehicle, shallow enough to prevent from being buried by dirt as the earth shifts but deep enough to be out of the wind.  Make it wider and longer than your vehicle.  Angle the trench so you can drive the vehicle into it on one end but still be at an appropriate depth.  It is slightly angled so rainwater can drain out of the trench on the end you drive your vehicle in on, so your trench doesn't flood.  You can line the bottom of your trench with rocks so you aren't in a river of mud.  Make it longer so you will have room for a pacing trench if you need one (i.e., if you are not tall, you might not need one, the regular trench might work).  This would be a trench within the trench, dug lower than the floor of the trench your car is parked on, perhaps behind your car.  This will allow the occupants to be able to stand up and pace back and forth.  I had to take a bus back from Tuscon after the turbo blew on my Volvo and your legs start to swell when you sit for so long, not to mention you start to get edgy, especially toward the end of the two-day ride.  This would be needed while things are building up but when it starts to get bad, you may not be able to get out of the vehicle.  This is an argument for a larger vehicle, perhaps an old Chevy Suburban.  It has bench seats, a third bench seat.  Family members could rotate to be able to stretch out on a bench seat if it is not safe to get out of the vehicle.

Then get one of those metal carports to place over your trench.  Dig deep holes for the legs so that the canopy of the carport covers the trench at the surface but have the trench dug deep enough so, if you are unable to get out of the side doors of your car, you will have some space if you have to cut up through the roof to get out, you won't be bumping into the carport canopy right on top of the roof of the car and having to cut through it to get out.  You could cement the legs of the canopy if you have the money and time.  If there is enough time left, put a layer of sod over the roof with fast growing grass with a strong root system to further protect from the winds which could blow the roof off.  If all else fails, get a large piece of metal to use instead of the metal carport and fasten it down as much as you can.  Make sure there are no exposed edges for the wind to catch.  I saw a storm chaser video where a tornado picked up a firetruck and spun it around, so respect the power of these winds and take extra precautions.

For further protection, tie down the car in case you lose your roof.  In a different blog, Doug Copp mentioned a technique of tying down the mini-blast shelter by burying tractor-trailer-sized tires with long lengths of chain to weigh them down.  I don't see why it would be any different it there is a car in the trench rather than a mini-blast shelter.  In a comment at https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/mini-blast-amp-fallout, Doug says:

"Take steel cables from each corner [of the blast shelter which is round] ... have a scope (nautical term for anchoring a boat) of about 20-30 degrees...and about 100 ft long...bury worn out tractor trailer tires (off the rim) into a 3ft deep pits and fill them back in with the cable attached to it."  This should work with a car or RV or any kind of vehicle you might use.

I asked him, "Do you think the cable in the tires should be cemented in before burying them?" and he said, "Not necessary, just bury them 3 to 5 ft deep. They won't come out.  Make sure the tires are filled with dirt and not left hollow."

As mentioned, the car has seat belts and will offer protection from the bouncing around from earth shaking.  It will keep you warm.  It will keep the air cleaner (and by having the trench on a slight incline with one end open there should be adequate air exchange and allow rainwater to run off).  It will offer some comfort.  It will also protect you from any animals trying to share your space.  You should also have a gun and ammo in case you need to chase some snarly critter away so you can get out.

Since it is likely you will have to be in the shelter for many days, you need to provide for waste disposal.  The Chevy Suburban or a van would be a good design because they have moveable seats.  One seat could be removed to make room for a chemical toilet, or even a geriatric toilet lined with a garbage bag.  Another thing to consider is motion sickness.  With the earth shifting about, people (especially children) will get sick.  It will be very unpleasant to be surrounded by vomit and no way to clean it up.  Have plenty of barf bags and liners, and stock up on lots of motion sickness medicine.

Remember also, if the windows are electric you need to provide for a way to roll them down in case there is EMP during this event and it kills your electrical system.  You will need to crack the windows for air circulation because the air will be used up quickly in an enclosed space.  You don't want airtight or you will suffocate.  You can get a camping fan that runs on batteries to keep the circulation moving at Wal-Mart.  Another thing to consider is being able to dump your bags of waste outside of the car, unless you have the kind of toilet that uses enzymes and has a large holding tank, or you use Rosemary's suggestion of wood shavings and earthworms that will eat the odor-causing elements.

Also, make sure there is next to no gas in the vehicle because of the risk involved in explosion or fire.  I'm not sure about the safety of batteries or oil in such close quarters, like if they give off fumes or the battery could explode, so check with your mechanic.

Do not eat much during this time and make sure what you do eat is not salty, so you won't drink a lot of water.  This cuts down on trips to the makeshift toilet.  This is where a flushable chemical toilet would be superior to a geriatric bedside toilet lined with a bag, in the short term.  The chemicals would keep the odor down.  What I don't know is for how long.  That is why the geriatric toilet (http://www.emeraldmedicalservice.com/-c-79_54.html?osCsid=ef17031a006d84d6515a7aeab28ae8f1) is probably the better idea, with liners that can be disposed of.  Squatting is uncomfortable, especially for older people, so the geriatric toilet is much easier for them to use, as well as younger people too.  The older models can sometimes be found at Goodwill and other thrift stores.  Disinfect it immediately if you buy used.  Rather than an outhouse, this could be used outside the vehicle (but still in the trench) before escalating events force you into the vehicle for good.  Always test everything to make sure things fit, work, etc.  If the legs are too long for the space, cut them down or buy one with shorter legs.  Another idea is the "totable toilet." It would probably work just as well.  See here:  http://beprepared.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_CH%20S650_A_name_E_Family%20Sanitation%20Kit.  The bucket by itself is $8.95.  Maybe the geriatric toilet outside the vehicle and the "totable toilet" inside?  Whatever works for you.

If you want gas for the aftertimes, use approved containers and bury them away from your trench.

The weak points are the windows.  While the vehicle will be under the canopy, if it blows off there would be no protection.  While the roof of the vehicle would still protect you from rain, the windows could be pelted and broken. Tempered glass is stronger than regular glass.  Then there is bullet-proof glass, but I assume that would be pricey.  You could also use other materials, like scrap sheet metal or plywood put over windows for extra protection, but be sure to affix it securely in case the exterior canopy goes.

Also, think about closing up the open end of the trench.  Would it be necessary?  (Necessary, if radiation is involved, or the first winds show it would be bad to leave it open.  Have a solution at hand if needed.)  If so, with what?  Sandbags?  55-gallon drums of water?  Would the wind just whip them away?  Should they be fastened somehow? Considering that a tornado can easily lift a firetruck, I would think, at a minimum, everything in the trench should be secured.  And the earthquakes could have things shifting left to right to left and/or bouncing up and down.  Factor that in as well.  Maybe we should bury ourselves in styrofoam "peanuts"?  (Joke.)

The overall appeal of this shelter is that the construction is doable by average people with commonly-available materials and is not out of reach price-wise nor will it take too long to put together.  If you can't afford the metal carport ($500-$800 depending on size), then use a big scrap of sheet metal or other metallic object like metal doors from old refrigerators, old car or truck hoods, or the barn doors off the back of old Chevy Suburbans or vans (make sure it's solid metal with no windows in any of them). If what you have doesn't look strong enough, use several, even mix and match metal and lumber, even box springs and mattresses, but put the metal on top.

I would like to hear some feedback.  Do you think this would work?  Do you see any other weaknesses?  If so, how could the weaknesses be remedied?

And, as a reminder, I am not a professional engineer and offer these possible solutions as educational material, food for thought.  If you choose to implement this shelter idea, it is your responsibility to ensure it is safe to do.  Something like this idea is better than doing nothing at all, and appears to cover many of the risks associated with the increasing earth changes.  However, it has not been field tested, so there are no guarantees.  In fact, it would probably be impossible to fully test since the upcoming event has never occurred in living memory and factors we could never imagine will probably crop up.

Finally, on another blog, https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-analysis-are-trench, a poleshift.ning moderator came around to discredit this idea of the enhanced trench shelter.  Some very good information surfaced, so please read that blog, if you haven't already, especially read the link to the French military operations to see what a trench shelter is like, from those who field tested them:  http://www.151ril.com/content/history/french-army/15.

The current severe weather in the northern hemisphere provoked this question.

Where is a safe location if a significant portion of the northern hemisphere is buried under snow and ice?  Have we been misled that there is such an animal?  Have we ever been advised to prepare for heavy snow and ice in addition to a safe location (traditionally meaning safe from rising seas, large bodies of water, mountain building, extraordinary earthquakes, volcanoes, etc.)?  Did NZT miss some important factors to consider in determining a safe location?

Further, will a trench covered with a metal roof and sod keep us from drowning in heavy rains or keep us from freezing to death if a mini ice age does indeed blanket the northern hemisphere during the passage?

ZT hasn't talked about the Gulf Stream slowing/stopping, yet the phenomena has been known since at least 2005.  There was a recent mention that it wouldn't be a source of problems, yet look at the winter the UK/Europe is having...predicted to be the coldest in a 1,000 years, when another mini ice age occurred. 

And all the "lowlands" expected to flood?  How do they flood if they are frozen before the passage?  I understand that water could wash over them, but my point is that the data was presented as something people would have to plan for and evacuate from.  However, now it looks like they will need to evacuate because of the deep freeze.  In other words, NZT did not see climate change/freezing temperatures coming.  She didn't see the Gulf Stream slowing/stopping as significant and brushed it off.  And she was blindsided, proving again that she is not getting her information from intelligent extraterrestrials.

We need to rethink our safe locations and factor in protection from the elements as well.

And check out this link https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-a-several-hundred-foot to see if a several-hundred-feet-in-elevation is really high enough if you are anywhere near large bodies of water. 

UPDATE:  06/21/2011:  Terral Croft has a map in his latest video, 7-7-11 Warning, that shows areas, such as the Appalachians and East Coast, in extreme danger zones, contrary to the Safe Locations document published by ZetaTalk.  Please examine Terral's map and decide if you need to alter your plans.  I am in the Appalachians, touted by ZetaTalk as being a safe area.  I don't buy the Zeta "water will dilute radiation" theory and think Terral's map makes more sense.  Of course, that is just my opinion.  You need to see the map:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/terral-crofts-elenin-threat and decide for yourself.