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This started out as a response to the recent Channelings blog where I was discussing what I felt was a fatal flaw in the Mythi saga (sheltering under rocky ledges or rock outcroppings during solar flares).  I feel this is an important topic and am reposting it as a blog to get more exposure....

Both solar radiation (in flares, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_flares) and nuclear radiation are electromagnetic and contain gamma rays (biologically hazardous component of fallout, see http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p916.htm).  While I don't know if the intensities are the same between solar and nuclear bombs, I would play it as safe as possible when researching shelters.  Remember, a planet-x-type object is heavily electromagnetic and its influence should be factored in, as well. 

What information I've found pertains to nuclear blasts and resulting fallout, and the worst danger is in the gamma rays (a penetrating form of radiation) from fallout.  You need a barrier with at least three feet of dirt (or two feet of concrete) all around to effectively shield from radiation.  Even in fallout shelters that have a small doorway, you have to stay away from that area because the radioactive particles bounce around and can get inside and kill you.* 

To me, Mythi's solution to get up under rocks when solar flares hit sounded like a "shallow trench" solution... deficient in significant ways.  (The second red flag was him saying that the px-type-object was only 38 days behind.  When PX is that close, there will be no doubt of its existence... anywhere on this planet.  By that statement, it should only be 16 days away from us today.  Has anything changed radically to indicate the rapid approach of that monster?  No.  Is it going to happen by Thanksgiving (38 days from Oct. 17th)?  No, so enjoy your holidays.)

 

* http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p916.htm:

"The trenches for entry and emergency exit were dug only 22 inches wide, to minimize radiation entering the shelter through these openings."

"The family sat and slept along the left wall, to be better shielded from radiation coming through the openings."

 

Fig. 5.3. Simplified illustration of barrier shielding and skyshine (scattered gamma radiation). An open trench provides poor protection. ORNL.DWG 78.7205:

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"... the man in the trench would not be protected from "skyshine," which is caused by gamma rays scattering after striking the nitrogen,oxygen, and other atoms of the air. The man's exposed head, which is just below ground level, would be hit by about one-tenth as many gamma rays as if it were 3 feet above ground (Fig. 5.3). Even if all fallout could be kept out of the trench and off the man and every part of the ground within 3 feet of the edges of the trench, skyshine from heavy fallout on the surrounding ground could deliver a fatal radiation dose to the man in the open trench."  (This emphasizes another reason the shallow-trench theory is deficient.)

"Skyshine reaches the ground from all directions. If the man were sitting in a deeper trench, he would escape more of this scattered radiation, but not all of it. For good protection he must be protected overhead and on all sides by barrier shielding."

This next sketch shows how any kind of overhead cover (rock or dirt) is insufficient to fully protect a person.  Even if you only receive "small" doses, how much does it take to cause cancer or even death?

Fig. 5.5. Skyshine coming into a shelter through a vertical entry would be mostly absorbed while turning into and traveling down the entryway trench. ORNL.DWG 78-7204 :

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The Impossibility of a Dark Twin

 

"Professor" Haesemeyer has shed some light on the alleged dark twin of Earth.  This is a response he made on the India During Poleshift blog @ https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/india-during-poleshift:

Keith H Comment by Keith H 1 hour ago

Something that occurred to me was that ZT has this Dark Twin Theory. I did some research and apparently has only started up in conversation from ZT in 2004, and prior to that it was referred to as the Dead Twin in ZT which was actually PX.

From what I gather is that it was that the Sun had a Dead Twin (PX) and ever since 2003-2004 (when Earth halted in it's orbit according to ZT) it seemed to morph into a description of an Earth size Dark Twin in the same orbit as Earth, 180 degrees opposite the Sun.

Prior to ZT, I faintly recall a theory to this nature, but could find no reference. I would be aghast that ZT originated something original.

After further examination, I found a Marvel Comics published the same theory in in one of their comics in 1972. The Greeks had some mythology behind it also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth_%28comics%29

There was a Counter Earth theory with scientific analysis.

If such a planet actually existed, according to present scientific cosmology, it would be permanently hidden behind the sun but nevertheless detectable from Earth, because of its gravitational influence upon the other planets of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed, as it was not accounted for in navigational calculation.

It must also be noted that the Earth orbit is not a circle but an ellipse, and in respect of Kepler's second law, a planet revolves faster when it is close to the star. So if the Counter-Earth followed the Earth on the same orbit with half a year of delay, it would sometimes be visible from Earth. Rather, to be hidden from Earth, the Counter-Earth would have an orbit symmetrical to Earth's one, not sharing the second focus.

The Sun-Jupiter Trojan asteroid system is an example of a stable Lagrange orbit. Equation 10 in section 14 of Lectures on Celestial Mechanics by Siegel and Moser shows the relation between the masses of the bodies and the distances between them in the case of a collinear orbit. However, these linear orbits are not as stable as, for example, the equilateral Lagrange orbits L4 and L5. Hilda asteroids do not visit L3 of Jupiter-Sun system, though they do come close to it in their curious orbits.

Any planetary sized body at Earth's L3 point should have been visible by the NASA STEREO coronagraphs during the first half of 2007. The separation of the STEREO spacecraft from Earth would give them a view of the L3 point during the early phase of the mission. Later, as the spacecraft continued to separate, the L3 point drifted out of the field of view. Given the sensitivity of STEREO's COR2 coronagraph, anything larger than 100 kilometres (62 mi) in diameter should have been detected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter-Earth#References_in_culture

There have been a few films with the same theme,

Doppelgänger or outside Europe known as Journey to the Far Side of the Sun, 1969

Another Earth 2011

Melancholia, 2011
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China Mirages...What's the Truth?

We were examining this phenomenon at https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/mirage-buildings-and?xg_source=activity and I got into examining ZT regarding it. Here's the ZT link and my analysis of their 2006 article: http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta282.htm".  See the earthchanges blog referenced above, down in the comments, on the possible misinterpretation of the May 2011 misty city in China.

 

It would make more sense if the mirage showed people heading to the mountains. I certainly wouldn't have gotten the message to flee a coastal from seeing a mirage of a city.  Ah, one could say, you weren't one of the chosen who received the telepathic message which provided more information.

In the example of the movie, Close Encounters, ZT offered it cited that certain people got zapped with a telepathic message. Does that mean that not all of the tens of thousands of people in town for the holiday weekend who saw the image that was visible for four hours didn't get the subconscious message, thus, weren't included in the full explanation of the message?

An argument could be, Ah, we said it was similar to but not exactly like Close Encounters. (underlined phrase is an example of leaving oneself some wriggle room, which means to leave oneself some room to maneuvre  by clever or devious means: wriggle out of an embarrassing situation, esp. when the truth comes out.  Lots of those kinds of words in ZT.)

Just for the sake of argument, let's assume they all received the telepathic message. Then why is the image inconsistent with the advice? Where are the mountains? And, going further, what kind of advice is it to seek a city in the mountains? Cities might be a temporary refuge now but why not lead them away from coastlines and into something more sustainable through the passage so they don't have to leave again, especially when the message appeared to be time critical? Hasn't it been a basic premise that cities, in their own way, are just as dangerous as coastlines during the coming upheaval?

Read the actual article.  It says that mirages have been recorded in that location throughout history. Uh oh. A fly in the ointment. Why was this day any different?

Mist is involved in these events. See the link above for the May 2011 event and comments.  Did you know Disneyland, back in the 80's, projected mist into the air which turned the air into a canvas to show their movies in the sky over the tall ship area. It was great fun, but even back then the technology existed.

There are way too many details for these to just be mirages.  Hologram tech, or earlier Disneyland tech are the best possibilities.  But, perhaps, it is a reflection, though not likely since an original would have to exist to be reflected. (Later, after one of msred's comments I could see that perhaps a sunken city could exist that sometimes reflects into the air under certain conditions like clear water and sunlight at a precise angle.  But even as I type this I realize that mist is present and while the mist could act as a canvas to project onto, the presence of mist would mean sunlight could be blocked, but because of land configurations there could be exceptions.  Anyway, an underwater city is the least likely. 

But no matter the origin of the misty city, the ZT explanation doesn't make sense if one is trying to get people to do something. Just the telepathy would have been plenty enough, and much less confusing.

BTW, this earlier China mirage was in 2006. And five years later, what has happened? Tens of thousands of people witnessed the image and at least some, but logically more, received a telepathic message interpreting the mirage. Has there been a mass exodus? Has anything at all happened based on this grand warning?  Nope. Nada. Negativo. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

My bet is enterprising business developers are playing on a natural phenomenon and now have the power to make it more realistic, so as to increase tourist trade in their area. What do you think?

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Mark, a moderator from poleshift.ning and staunch ZetaTalk devotee, posed this question:  

 

here's another example of ZT being the source of your material Cheryl.
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-idea-for-a-tren... or do you claim that you came up with the idea of a shallow trench covered with a metal or sod-covered roof?

 

His original question and my original response is located at:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/china-mirageswhats-the-truth.

Of course, Mark, I don't claim to have come up with the concept of a trench shelter covered with a metal or sod roof, but neither is the concept original with Troubled Times/Zetatalk. Trench shelters have been used in many wars because they are relatively quick to construct and provide protection.  This article is based on source materials dating back to French military operations in 1914-1918.  See http://www.151ril.com/content/history/french-army/15.  For your convenience, here are some relevant quotes: 

This article is about: "The subject of French army shelters and dugouts (along with trench construction in general)...."

The materials used to construct trench shelters: "The primary materials used in shelter construction in the French army were logs or wood poles, rocks and dirt. To a lesser degree, planks, sandbags, corrugated sheets of metal, steel rails and iron sheets were used."

Trenches for higher ranking officers is then discussed before coming to the lesser quality trenches for the common man's, the foot soldiers', trench shelters: "Last on the pecking order were the foot-soldiers. The conditions of their shelters varied, but in general they proved woefully inadequate for most of the war. Improvements only started coming about in the fall of 1917 to meet the demands of rebellious, discontent soldiers. Materials used in the construction of the foot-soldiers' shelter normally included sticks, wattles, gabions, and sheets of corrugated metal. To a lesser degree, sandbags, small logs, and planks might be employed. Universally, these shelters were dark, dank, filthy, vermin-infested holes or shacks that brought misery to every soldier."

How sturdy are trench shelters? "Inclement conditions such as heavy rains and mud, often lead to the shelters collapsing."

On sod/metal roofs: "Alternately, a section of covered trench could be used as shelter, consisting of a simple roof of light logs or poles laid across the top of the trench, covered over with a layer of sandbags or earth up to a foot thick. However, abundant examples exist of less reinforced covered trenches that consisted only of a layer of light logs or a panel of corrugated metal straddling the trench."

On the subject of sod (contrasted to just plain dirt): "Shelters for soldiers in the rear were often just as inadequate and miserable as those up at the front.... A crossbeam pole rested between these, which supported the roof of poles or light logs, covered over with hay, straw and/or sod."

Now, imagine lying in a shallow trench with such a roof with winds and rain at the high end of this demonstration:  http://hosted.ap.org/specials/interactives/_national/hurricanesHistoryNew/index.html?SITE=FLPAP&SECTION=HOME.  How safe would you really be?

This is a fascinating article which everyone should read in its entirety for more ideas on how to build a trench shelter, plans that have been field tested.

Prof. McCanney says a lot of water will be coming in during the passage, lots of hydrocarbons mixed in (meaning polluted water), and ancient texts and geologic records confirm the same. As the French learned from experience, trench shelters turn into mud and collapse. So, Mark, the solution Zetatalk proposes not only did not originate with them, but is being disseminated as a solution, when in fact it is neither a solution, nor is it safe in the context of the extremes that will be generated by the object following behind Comet Elenin. Because I care about people, I am going to great lengths to try and make the trench shelter concept safer and healthier, as well as more comfortable as well as possible.

Also, please pause to consider that if you had posted at poleshift.ning what you posted here, except praising this ning, you would have been banned from poleshift.ning in a heartbeat.  But you weren't.  You were able to enjoy freedom of speech, which this ning promotes.  It's such a more pleasant atmosphere here.  And, look, you learned something.  Why?  Because you were able to ask questions, even though in a bit of an aggressive manner.  Education is important here.  What if we had just banned you.  You wouldn't have learned that your solution (if you are electing the trench shelter option) is fatally defective.  Think of all the people who will be relying on the ZT solution.  Most are going to die when their shelters disintegrate into a puddle of mud.  Now do you understand why I analyze?  Banning questions is just deflection because the material does not stand up under scrutiny. 

Think about it, Mark.  You are one of the few that has come here and can see we are not what she says we are.  Did you know I have run an earthchanges website and yahoogroup since 2003 (and continue to do so)?  I don't need any help.  I was sent to help Gerard.  Did you know Nancy and I were Gerard's first admins?  When I came on board in early January 2010, the membership was under 300; when I left, it was over 1,600?  I know Nancy drew a lot of attention because of her longevity on the internet, but did you know that during the time I was there that I referred over 700 members of my yahoogroup to poleshift.ning?  Did they tell you that poleshift ning's rules were written by me, in concert with discussions with Nancy and Gerard?  And why do you think Nancy bemoaned the loss of all my blogs?  They were substantial.  Did you know Nancy encouraged any poleshift ning member to commit theft by recovering one of my blogs and downloading two others without my permission and that they lost three copyright infringement claims because of their theft?  Who's copying whom?  I have documentation for all of this.  And do I sound crazy, post-nervous-breakdown, weak, and all the false ZT she's proclaimed on me.  Not hardly.  I've been here almost every day since I left poleshift.ning.  If you didn't know any of this, then you are only getting one side of the picture. 

 

UPDATE 6/30/2011:  Also realize that rolling would be caused by slip faults, which create a sideways motion and may not be the only type of earthquake.  I lived through the Northridge Earthquake, five miles from epicenter, and it was a thruster, which creates an up and down motion--a more violent earthquake--which causes your body to fly up into the air and then gravity brings you back down, and this would be a repetitive motion, thus more potential for damage.  Mountain building is a thruster-type earthquake.  The power at play would be like throwing a rag doll into the air and letting it land where it will, but with much more mass and breakable objects in the human body than a rag doll.  A better analogy would be throwing a carton of eggs into the air and see how many don't break after it lands a few times.

UPDATE 8/28/3011:  See http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p916.htm for information on how to construct a pole-covered trench that would shield from radiation.

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This is a Sorcha Faal article, Russian grey disinfo.  However, there are usually kernels of truth and links to other articles that are worthwhile.  Read with discernment.  http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1437.htm

Please rebut points you think are not true, or even feel wrong, so the rest of us may benefit from the analysis.

Here are some things to consider:

Sorcha Faal:  "Important to note about all of the animal deaths being reported this past week, the MCHS says, are that they have been confined to a very specific latitude range between 24 and 58 North and 8 to 24 South indicating two separate breeches of our Earth’s upper atmosphere allowing these poisonous space cloud gasses to come through to the lower atmosphere."

StarViewTeam:  "There are several precedents for mild geomagnetic reversals following a solar storm.  Most of them give rise to earthquakes and sudden climate changes in areas where the greatest concentration impact load."

 

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So we may be seeing an increase in earthquakes and severe weather in the orange band (and notice Chile is getting hit, as well as northern South America, which are already unstable). 

 

Then there's Brian's post at https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/there-could-be-interesting?xg_source=activity

"The thinking is that as we progress further into each of these 87 day cycles, the amount of 'anticipation' and 'carry over' from previous cycles will increase. So as an instance, August 1 of this year produced only 5 days of geomagnetic affective actions, where the beginning of the next cycle that occurred on October 27 is *still* producing activity in the Indonesian islands. So as we progress into 2011, i suspect that the activity will join together at both ends such that between one cycle and the next full 87 day sun polar 'lap' cycle, the activity, with volcanoes and earthquakes and such, will continue without significant decrease."

I don't know how these interrelate but suspect they do.  Amy has mentioned there are holes in our atmosphere and I was asking last night if extra solar radiation was hitting us, as well

These events look like the impetus that could start the dominoes falling. 

 

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I just stumbled upon what appears to be another NZT blooper.  In "Radar Circles,"at http://www.zetatalk2.com/index/zeta558.htm, the Zetas who channel Miss Lieder stated, regarding radar circles that, "This drama is unlikely to appear outside of the area of the magnetic S Pole of Earth, so will remain in all likelihood an Australian drama, unexplained in man's scientific terms, a mystery to all but those who follow ZetaTalk."

A quick search of the internet shows radar circles have shown up in the U.S. since at least 1998.  I also recall one appearing over Belgium, Germany and the Netherlands back in 2010.

See:  http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/01/14/huge-ring-appears-over-australia-is-haarp-involved/ and  http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2011/01/huge-ring-appears-over-australia-is.html.

Updated 01/17/2011:  http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2011/01/unusual-rings-on-radar-screen-become.html.  This one links to an Indianapolis news article of 1996 that shows large rings on radar.  The theory was birds, but it expanded to become 45-miles wide!  This is another proof that radar circles happened well before PX was even alleged to have entered our solar system, and that they happen in the US.  In other words, they aren't just an Australian phenomenon because Australia is closest to the incoming PX.

 

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The Zetatalk Analysis Series

 

GO TO ZETAFART.COM

 

"A debunker is a person who attempts to expose or discredit claims which are false, exaggerated or pretentious."  Thus, the action of doing that is called debunking.  If you are coming here from Zetatalk, don't worry -- you won't melt if you read these articles, but you will find out why people are banned for simply asking questions there.  The false science they promote does not hold up under the light of scrutiny.

This is a listing of different blogs written after researching various topics on the Zetatalk website. There are, obviously, other causes for a number of phenomena that have been "explained" by the "Zetas."  This list will be added to from time to time.

 

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE DEPARTMENT

Red Filter From Floppy Disks Used By ZT To Make It Seem That PX Was Out By The Sun
As exposed by former long-term poleshift.ning moderator, Lothar Schwarz...

Lothar removed his content... it was at https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-red-filter-idear-is-dead-rip
See Former Poleshift.ning Moderator Says Nancy Used Red Filters To Fake Second Suns (see 6:50).

PSning Moderator, AlexR, departed and came here to apologize to us for psning's wrongful actions... https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/confessions-from-an-ex-moderator-of-the-ps-ning

Another PSning Moderator Has Departed... This is Co S's farewell expose...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dCN2nhizopgXZL3xl_ezykOnqZJKXGXhMgKMUmmxQ6c/preview?pli=1&sle=true

Former PSning Moderator Brian tells his story...
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/i-am-ashamed

Former PSning Moderator Kai (Cindi/Cin) tells her story...
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/recently-departed-poleshift

Cheryl Rebuts Nancy's Scandalous Defamation...
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-modest-rebuttal

Cheryl Rebuts New Information Re Nancy's Scandalous Defamation
earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-modest-rebuttal-update-2012

 

OUTRIGHT FALSE ZETATALK:

ZT "science" showing how the Venus transit was "wrong" is easily debunked in this video:
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-venus-orbit-blather-debunked
ZT didn't account for the image orientation.

Is Manila/Luzon Flooding Because Of A 40-foot Drop In Elevation?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/manila-luzon-40-foot-drop-in-elevation#comments
Parts of these areas are below sea level and this year, 2012, has seen copious rainfall.

Indonesian Plate Is NOT Collapsing!  TruEarth Images ZT Uses As Proof Are 11 Years Old!!!  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tectonic-plates-collapsing

 

POTENTIALLY UNSAFE ZETATALK:
Analyses that expose erroneous or incomplete ZT potentially affecting the public safety and welfare will be posted here at the top.  Below this section, articles are posted chronologically, oldest on top, newest on the bottom...

Can Volcanoes Inactive For Over 10,000 Years Come To Life?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/alert-level-raised-on-previously-extinct-volcano
Apparently so.  Keep your eye on this one.  ZT advice indicates that no activity within the past 10,000 years makes them safe.  See http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p120.htm and http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/jy2011.htm.  This may not be true.

Are Trench Shelters, As Proposed By Zetatalk, Safe?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-analysis-are-trench

Another Idea For A Trench Shelter (to make potentially unsafe shallow trench shelters more safe)
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-idea-for-a-trench 

Yet More About The Inadequacies Of Shallow Trench Shelters
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zetatalk-yet-more-about-the-inadequacies-of-shallow-trench 

Is A Several Hundred Foot Elevation High Enough?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-a-several-hundred-foot

Is There Really Any Such Thing as a "Safe Location"?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-there-really-any-such-thing

 

QUESTIONABLE ZETATALK:

This first one is the one that woke me up that maybe some of the ZT information wasn't accurate (and if some is inaccurate, how can you trust any of it?):

Is That Object Planet X? Maybe Not!
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-that-winged-object-really

Bobbling NASA Cameras
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/bobbling-nasa-cameras

Several Theories For The Sun's Quiescent Period
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/several-theories-for-the-suns

The Tidcombe Crop Circle, (Near Burbage, Wiltshire, England) of August 16, 2009
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/analysis-the-tidcombe-crop

Have The Opening Rounds Of WWIII Been Fired? And The Norwegian Spiral Is Implicated!
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/have-the-opening-rounds-of

The European Tsunami and the Gulf Stream
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-european-tsunami-and-the

Indonesia Resides On The Eurasian Plate (not the Indo-Australian plate)
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/indonesia-resides-on-the

Radar Circles:  For Oz's Eyes Only?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-analysis-series-radar

BUOY DATA CHARTS ARE NOT PROOF OF COLLAPSING TECTONIC PLATES, THEY ARE PROOF OF RISING POCKETS OF GAS WHICH ARE CAUSING SEABEDS TO BULGE
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/oh-buoy

(you should also check out this link for images of buoy charts without X/Y axis data being offered as proof:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tectonic-plates-collapsing)

 

On Independent Thinking
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/you-become-what-you-resist
This is a good article, written back in the early days of Zetatalk.  However, things have changed and Nancy & Co. have become what this article warned about!

 

This next one is an extrapolation from several ZT statements...
Could PX Be Pushed Out Of Its Orbit?  If So, What Are The Implications?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/could-px-be-pushed-out-of-its

HAS THE 2012 DOOMSDAY ALREADY BEGUN?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/has-the-2012-doomsday-already
See, especially, the section entitled "Poleshift Madness."  There is no evidence for a crustal shift, according to this author.

This Sounds Similar to ZetaTalk...Except Wilkerson's prophecies predate ZT by 20 Years!  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-vision-by-david-wilkerson

The Impossibility Of A Dark Twin
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-impossibility-of-a-dark

China Mirages...What's The Truth?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/china-mirageswhats-the-truth
This blog was heavily attacked.  Wonder why.

Was Dust From PX's Tail The Only Cause For Red Sunsets?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/geomagnetic-pinkyorange-sun

Nancy Lieder Said Hale-Bopp Didn't Exist, Then Changed Her Story To "It Would Fragment"
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/so-is-elenin-nothing-as-recent

Could Another Reason For Days Of Darkness Exist?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/will-elenin-cause-days-of-darkness

 

Miscellaneous

A Channeled Reading About ZetaTalk
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-channeled-reading-about

50º - Answers of an Alien From Andromeda - Slap to Zetas and Nancy:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/50-answers-of-an-alien-from

Direct Message From Star Nations Council Member
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/direct-message-from-asheoma-te-ka-meata-of-star-nations

Heads up on Humans pretending to be Zetas

Classic Attacks From Zetatalk
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/classic-attacks-from-zetatalk
Here are posts made by moderators and friends of zetatalk.com and poleshift.ning.com.  Classic disinformation techniques.


AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE QUESTIONING ZT:

http://trebobslab.blogspot.com/2009/05/debunking-nancy-lieder.html 

http://web.archive.org/web/20110723151953/http://www.skepticalmind.com/

http://www.2012hoax.org/nancy-lieder

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1149282/pg1 

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg966 

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?70009-OT-Planet-X-Class-Action-Lawsuit-Action-Being-Taken-Against-Zeta-Talk-s-Leider

http://web.archive.org/web/20110716081802/http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetafaq.html

http://www.zetasquawk.com/index.html

Zetatalk, Planet X & The Pole Shift Rocky Horror Show
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zetatalkrockhorrorshow08feb11.shtml

Nancy & Zetatalk Made the Good, Bad, and Ugly In Ufology List
http://www.drboylan.com/goodbadugly.html
BAD GUYS/WOMEN (Bad=harms UFO truth...)

"- Nancy Leider, producer of the fraudulent and disinformation site “ZetaTalk”, which pretends to be her “channeled” messages from “Zetas,” (who would never talk to a purveyor of falsehoods like her)"


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I was asked my take on this crop circle. Here it is. Lots of great pics and a surprising conclusion!

DATA:

First, I noted that a thumbnail size image of this crop circle looks like an 8-point star. On enlargement, the points appear to be 8 separate "arms" (each arm a closed system yet each arm linked to the next) all of which do not touch but appear arranged or orbiting around the central object.
I will use the "arm" directly above 06:00 as a point of reference. Within each arm, there appears to be a closed system which consists of 3 orbs (the closest one to the central object I'll label O1 (followed by O2 and O3, to complete the set of three orbs). Around O2 there are four small donut-shaped circles. These are smaller than similar ones around the set of two orbs that will be discussed below. Out of O3 there is a line, in the shape of a half circle or hemisphere bearing to the right which I think represents some sort of power or force field that connects the O1-O2-O3 chain to a second set of same-sized orbs (labeled Oa and Ob), making them both one unit.

In the two-orb set, I'll label the lower orb Oa and the upper orb as Ob. While O1-O2-O3 appear to touch, Oa and Ob do not touch, but seem to be joined by a force (represented by a straight line). Two small, donut-shaped circles are on each side of the force/line/link between Oa and Ob. Note that four similar small donut-shaped objects surround O2 (rather than a force/line/link). Out of Ob, a hemispherical-shaped line representing some force/line/link connects Ob with O1.

This next image is an enlargement of the main image at https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-that-winged-object-really. Notice how it looks like there are three main parts to the body (not including the wings) which seem like O1, O2 and O3, and there seems to be a break and then another, fainter square (Oa, Ob?) trailing behind:

This next image also shows that configuration, 3 objects in the main body, a gap, then another object trailing behind). Also note the red in the center of the main body, which may indicate heat, and relate this to the theory that the 4 donuts around O2 may be a power source of some sort and the heated area is right in that area:

And while on the subject of heat, this next image shows heat in the main body and the tail (as two separate yet joined bodies) and the blue/white color I think represents the force shield. Make note of this as it will be discussed further below:

The Tidcombe Wiltshire crop circle was made on the date of the Hellion-1957 event, August 16, 2009. Following are the NASA pictures showing what was going on in space at that time. First, note the sets of three orbs arranged or orbiting around a central object (the sun)....


Here's the same image, taken a few minutes earlier, by a different camera at a different angle, which shows this isn't some kind of camera malfunction. It adds on two more sets of three orbs, to the six above, for a total of eight. (I'm thinking the set around 08:30 may be the same set as faintly seen just above.) Also, the green image clearly shows the force fields surrounding each orb.

Notice the donut shapes and how their energy fields are overlapping. It looks like three orbs are acting in concert.

Disclaimer: I assume the crop circle is a sort of artistic representation so don't expect it to be "to scale" or everything to be exact because things move around. Also, we know the NASA images were edited and only a few images slipped through, so the pictures could be missing the "full fleet" (i.e., no one image with eight sets of three orbs are visible, perhaps some had already departed by the time this image was made, or some were further away and didn't show up. For example, along about the 08:30 position in the Stereo Ahead Cor2 (red) image just above you can see a very faint set of three orbs, while in the Stereo Ahead Cor1 (green) image an extra set of three orbs appear at the top and at the bottom that don't show up on the red image. And eight arms was all the crop circle could show.  Space is vast and eight could have been just an indication of "many," though I was able to see at least eight sets between the two images.

The orbs are obviously artificial. Comets and asteroids don't line themselves up in sets of three and hang out on street corners while their buddies do the same thing around the neighborhood. These orbs were in a particular arrangement in order to combine forces to correct the trajectory of the Hellion 1957 object.

My conclusion is that each "arm" on the crop circle represents a set of one or more space vehicles. Whether one vehicle or more, I'm not sure. It seems that all the orbs are linked together to perhaps combine power in a kind of "the sum is greater than the individual parts" kind of strategy because they did shoot amazingly powerful proton beams at the Hellion-1957 object, see images below.

The four small donuts around the central (O2) orb could be the energy sources linking the O1-2-3 orbs together. Notice how the color is brighter where the three orbs overlap. Of course, it could just be the overlapping itself creating the more intense color, or it's extra power plus overlapping, it's hard to say. But after I enlarged the orbs around 08:30 on the green image, the overlapping parts aren't a darker green which is what you would think you'd get if you overlapped two of the same color. No. It glows bright white. Thus, I think the overlapping is power related.

The Oa and Ob orbs I think are related to the O1-2-3 orbs because they are the same size. I note that the two donuts connected with the line between Oa and Ob appear larger than the four donuts around O2. Half as many donuts in the tail, but twice as big? The tail carrying less weight than the main body but providing extra power needed to help push the main body forward? Perhaps.

On August 17, 2009 (the next day), the Tidcombe Wiltshire crop circle was destroyed. Here is a link to that information: http://translate.google.es/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstarviewer.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F08%2F18%2Finforme-sobre-lo-acontecido-ayer%2F&sl=es&tl=en&hl=es&ie=UTF-8. (Search crop circle.)

Here is the picture of the "destroyed" crop circle:

A similar image to what was going on up in space at the time (superimpose the blue image over the red image in your mind):

Reminiscent of some earlier activity:


As I mentioned earlier, the thumbnail image of the Tidcombe Wiltshire crop circle looks like an 8-point star. In the link I gave earlier, the StarViewer team drew lines on one of the NASA images that had 8-points (though not in a perfect star shape, however you can see an "X'd" out cross just like in the crop circle thumbnail). I posted it below for convenience. (I think the blue line represents the Hellion-1957 trajectory.)  Does this not fit the eight sets of "arms" depicted in the crop circle? 

For description of the lines and other information related to the Hellion-1957 event, see http://translate.google.es/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstarviewer.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F08%2F18%2Finforme-sobre-lo-acontecido-ayer%2F&sl=es&tl=en&hl=es&ie=UTF-8.

Later, I found the following image which I believe sheds some light on the hemispherical lines on each side of an "arm" in the Tidcombe Crop Circle. It is also quite suggestive that the "wings" and "tail" on this space vehicle (which may the winged globe that ZetaTalk had labeled as PX) is actually a force shield. Further, the "wings" in this image have an appearance of something swimming and the crop circle has a similar motion-like quality to it in the half-circle designs.  I can't say with any certainty that this vehicle is the same as the blips on the above images or in the crop circle, but it is a good candidate.  BTW, somewhere in my travels, I saw a video of some kind of ET/UFO swimming by the International Space Station.  If I ever find that link, I'll post it.  Anyway, seeing what appears to be power emanating from the central part of the object, plus power coming out the tail is suggestive of the objects in the crop circle.  There could be three and two objects, blurred together as one object because of light reflection and distance.

So, I still think this crop circle was an indication of the Hellion-1957 event which, by the way, was said back in 2009 to be returning in about two years (= August 2011). I don't think it was a hoax because there are too many pieces fitting this puzzle.

Are there any other interpretations that could support or discredit this theory? Not that I could find. However, back during the time of the event (August 2009), I emailed the ZT emissary who had nothing substantial to say about this major event, and basically brushed it off as not being related to PX. And, indeed, it's not!  However, I found it odd that the Zetas were not asked to comment on what exactly it was, since it created a buzz on GLP and they are asked every other question under the sun. So I researched and found a minimal discussion on ZetaTalk @ http://zetatalk.com/index/zeta561.htm, more than five months after the event, as follows:

(From the GodLikeProductions Chat of 01/30/10:)
"Q: I couldn't find reference in ZT to this magnificent crop circle from 2009. Could you offer some insight as to it's meaning? http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/tidcombe/tidcombe2009.html [Note: link no longer works]

"ZT: The serpentine twist is, as we have mentioned in other crop circle analysis, the magnetic dance that the Earth and Planet X have now entered. Planet X has a retrograde orbit and a retrograde rotation, and thus collides with the Earth on both those fronts during a passage."

I don't think Earth and PX are represented on this crop circle. I think a large comet, Hellion-1957 is the center, and eight sets of UFOs are lined up to combine their power in altering Hellion-1957's trajectory so it didn't collide with the sun, are the subject matter of this, the Tidcombe Crop Circle.

To see more, especial what the StarViewer Team of Spanish astronomers said about Hellion-1957, see http://apocalyptichousewife.angelfire.com/hellion1957.html.

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