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"Professor" Haesemeyer has shed some light on the alleged dark twin of Earth.  This is a response he made on the India During Poleshift blog @ https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/india-during-poleshift:

It would make more sense if the mirage showed people heading to the mountains. I certainly wouldn't have gotten the message to flee a coastal from seeing a mirage of a city.  Ah, one could say, you weren't one of the chosen who received the telepathic message which provided more information.

In the example of the movie, Close Encounters, ZT offered it cited that certain people got zapped with a telepathic message. Does that mean that not all of the tens of thousands of people in town for the holiday weekend who saw the image that was visible for four hours didn't get the subconscious message, thus, weren't included in the full explanation of the message?

An argument could be, Ah, we said it was similar to but not exactly like Close Encounters. (underlined phrase is an example of leaving oneself some wriggle room, which means to leave oneself some room to maneuvre  by clever or devious means: wriggle out of an embarrassing situation, esp. when the truth comes out.  Lots of those kinds of words in ZT.)

Just for the sake of argument, let's assume they all received the telepathic message. Then why is the image inconsistent with the advice? Where are the mountains? And, going further, what kind of advice is it to seek a city in the mountains? Cities might be a temporary refuge now but why not lead them away from coastlines and into something more sustainable through the passage so they don't have to leave again, especially when the message appeared to be time critical? Hasn't it been a basic premise that cities, in their own way, are just as dangerous as coastlines during the coming upheaval?

Read the actual article.  It says that mirages have been recorded in that location throughout history. Uh oh. A fly in the ointment. Why was this day any different?

Mist is involved in these events. See the link above for the May 2011 event and comments.  Did you know Disneyland, back in the 80's, projected mist into the air which turned the air into a canvas to show their movies in the sky over the tall ship area. It was great fun, but even back then the technology existed.

There are way too many details for these to just be mirages.  Hologram tech, or earlier Disneyland tech are the best possibilities.  But, perhaps, it is a reflection, though not likely since an original would have to exist to be reflected. (Later, after one of msred's comments I could see that perhaps a sunken city could exist that sometimes reflects into the air under certain conditions like clear water and sunlight at a precise angle.  But even as I type this I realize that mist is present and while the mist could act as a canvas to project onto, the presence of mist would mean sunlight could be blocked, but because of land configurations there could be exceptions.  Anyway, an underwater city is the least likely. 

But no matter the origin of the misty city, the ZT explanation doesn't make sense if one is trying to get people to do something. Just the telepathy would have been plenty enough, and much less confusing.

BTW, this earlier China mirage was in 2006. And five years later, what has happened? Tens of thousands of people witnessed the image and at least some, but logically more, received a telepathic message interpreting the mirage. Has there been a mass exodus? Has anything at all happened based on this grand warning?  Nope. Nada. Negativo. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

My bet is enterprising business developers are playing on a natural phenomenon and now have the power to make it more realistic, so as to increase tourist trade in their area. What do you think?

Part 1:  http://www.preparednesspro.com/blog/food-shortage-series-part-1/

"Point blank: We are in for some serious trouble with our food supply and consequently our ability to afford it on what we’re presently earning.  This trouble isn’t going to manifest itself in a year or two. Nope. We don’t have that much time in this particular area. Rather, it’s headed into our homes no longer than 6 months from now, and more likely to be obvious 6 weeks from now. Unless you’re enjoying an income that can take a 40-50% increase hit in your essential expenses, then I’m certain you will not be spared the impact of this snowball that’s rolling down hill, gaining in momentum and size; and it’s coming right to our front doors."

Part 2:  http://www.preparednesspro.com/blog/food-shortage-part-ii/

"Many of the stores I’ve spoken to all over the U.S. have shared with me that it’s not even a matter of how much an item is. They expect to have NONE of these items until the next crop, specifically your vegetables. Several local chains said that prices have increased 50-300% just in the last 72 hours. (I strongly suggest you stock up on frozen vegetables and make sure that you’ve got sprouting seeds to replace some of your vegetable nutrients that will be glaringly missing from your plates as soon as this weekend.)"

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"A debunker is a person who attempts to expose or discredit claims which are false, exaggerated or pretentious."  Thus, the action of doing that is called debunking.  If you are coming here from Zetatalk, don't worry -- you won't melt if you read these articles, but you will find out why people are banned for simply asking questions there.  The false science they promote does not hold up under the light of scrutiny.

This is a listing of different blogs written after researching various topics on the Zetatalk website. There are, obviously, other causes for a number of phenomena that have been "explained" by the "Zetas."  This list will be added to from time to time.

THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE DEPARTMENT

Red Filter From Floppy Disks Used By ZT To Make It Seem That PX Was Out By The Sun
As exposed by former long-term poleshift.ning moderator, Lothar Schwarz...
Lothar removed his content... it was at https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-red-filter-idear-is-dead-rip
See Former Poleshift.ning Moderator Says Nancy Used Red Filters To Fake Second Suns (see 6:50).

PSning Moderator, AlexR, departed and came here to apologize to us for psning's wrongful actions... https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/confessions-from-an-ex-moderator-of-the-ps-ning

Another PSning Moderator Has Departed... This is Co S's farewell expose...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dCN2nhizopgXZL3xl_ezykOnqZJKXGXhMgKMUmmxQ6c/preview?pli=1&sle=true

Former PSning Moderator Brian tells his story...
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/i-am-ashamed

Former PSning Moderator Kai (Cindi/Cin) tells her story...
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/recently-departed-poleshift

Cheryl Rebuts Nancy's Scandalous Defamation...
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-modest-rebuttal

Cheryl Rebuts New Information Re Nancy's Scandalous Defamation
earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-modest-rebuttal-update-2012

OUTRIGHT FALSE ZETATALK:

ZT "science" showing how the Venus transit was "wrong" is easily debunked in this video:
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-venus-orbit-blather-debunked
ZT didn't account for the image orientation.

Is Manila/Luzon Flooding Because Of A 40-foot Drop In Elevation?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/manila-luzon-40-foot-drop-in-elevation#comments
Parts of these areas are below sea level and this year, 2012, has seen copious rainfall.

Indonesian Plate Is NOT Collapsing!  TruEarth Images ZT Uses As Proof Are 11 Years Old!!!  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tectonic-plates-collapsing

POTENTIALLY UNSAFE ZETATALK:
Analyses that expose erroneous or incomplete ZT potentially affecting the public safety and welfare will be posted here at the top.  Below this section, articles are posted chronologically, oldest on top, newest on the bottom...

Can Volcanoes Inactive For Over 10,000 Years Come To Life?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/alert-level-raised-on-previously-extinct-volcano
Apparently so.  Keep your eye on this one.  ZT advice indicates that no activity within the past 10,000 years makes them safe.  See http://www.zetatalk.com/poleshft/p120.htm and http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/jy2011.htm.  This may not be true.

Are Trench Shelters, As Proposed By Zetatalk, Safe?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-analysis-are-trench

Another Idea For A Trench Shelter (to make potentially unsafe shallow trench shelters more safe)
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/another-idea-for-a-trench 

Yet More About The Inadequacies Of Shallow Trench Shelters
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zetatalk-yet-more-about-the-inadequacies-of-shallow-trench 

Is A Several Hundred Foot Elevation High Enough?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-a-several-hundred-foot

Is There Really Any Such Thing as a "Safe Location"?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-there-really-any-such-thing

QUESTIONABLE ZETATALK:

This first one is the one that woke me up that maybe some of the ZT information wasn't accurate (and if some is inaccurate, how can you trust any of it?):

Is That Object Planet X? Maybe Not!
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-that-winged-object-really

Bobbling NASA Cameras
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/bobbling-nasa-cameras

Several Theories For The Sun's Quiescent Period
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/several-theories-for-the-suns

The Tidcombe Crop Circle, (Near Burbage, Wiltshire, England) of August 16, 2009
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/analysis-the-tidcombe-crop

Have The Opening Rounds Of WWIII Been Fired? And The Norwegian Spiral Is Implicated!
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/have-the-opening-rounds-of

The European Tsunami and the Gulf Stream
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-european-tsunami-and-the

Indonesia Resides On The Eurasian Plate (not the Indo-Australian plate)
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/indonesia-resides-on-the

Radar Circles:  For Oz's Eyes Only?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/zt-analysis-series-radar

BUOY DATA CHARTS ARE NOT PROOF OF COLLAPSING TECTONIC PLATES, THEY ARE PROOF OF RISING POCKETS OF GAS WHICH ARE CAUSING SEABEDS TO BULGE
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/oh-buoy

(you should also check out this link for images of buoy charts without X/Y axis data being offered as proof:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/tectonic-plates-collapsing)

On Independent Thinking
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/you-become-what-you-resist
This is a good article, written back in the early days of Zetatalk.  However, things have changed and Nancy & Co. have become what this article warned about!

This next one is an extrapolation from several ZT statements...
Could PX Be Pushed Out Of Its Orbit?  If So, What Are The Implications?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/could-px-be-pushed-out-of-its

HAS THE 2012 DOOMSDAY ALREADY BEGUN?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/has-the-2012-doomsday-already
See, especially, the section entitled "Poleshift Madness."  There is no evidence for a crustal shift, according to this author.

This Sounds Similar to ZetaTalk...Except Wilkerson's prophecies predate ZT by 20 Years!  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-vision-by-david-wilkerson

The Impossibility Of A Dark Twin
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-impossibility-of-a-dark

China Mirages...What's The Truth?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/china-mirageswhats-the-truth
This blog was heavily attacked.  Wonder why.

Was Dust From PX's Tail The Only Cause For Red Sunsets?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/geomagnetic-pinkyorange-sun

Nancy Lieder Said Hale-Bopp Didn't Exist, Then Changed Her Story To "It Would Fragment"
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/so-is-elenin-nothing-as-recent

Could Another Reason For Days Of Darkness Exist?
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/will-elenin-cause-days-of-darkness

Miscellaneous

A Channeled Reading About ZetaTalk
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/a-channeled-reading-about

50º - Answers of an Alien From Andromeda - Slap to Zetas and Nancy:  https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/50-answers-of-an-alien-from

Direct Message From Star Nations Council Member
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/direct-message-from-asheoma-te-ka-meata-of-star-nations
Heads up on Humans pretending to be Zetas

Classic Attacks From Zetatalk
https://earthchanges.ning.com/profiles/blogs/classic-attacks-from-zetatalk
Here are posts made by moderators and friends of zetatalk.com and poleshift.ning.com.  Classic disinformation techniques.

AND I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE QUESTIONING ZT:

http://trebobslab.blogspot.com/2009/05/debunking-nancy-lieder.html 

http://web.archive.org/web/20110723151953/http://www.skepticalmind.com/

http://www.2012hoax.org/nancy-lieder

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1149282/pg1 

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message814739/pg966 

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?70009-OT-Planet-X-Class-Action-Lawsuit-Action-Being-Taken-Against-Zeta-Talk-s-Leider

http://web.archive.org/web/20110716081802/http://www.skepticalmind.com/zetafaq.html

http://www.zetasquawk.com/index.html

Zetatalk, Planet X & The Pole Shift Rocky Horror Show
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/zetatalkrockhorrorshow08feb11.shtml

Nancy & Zetatalk Made the Good, Bad, and Ugly In Ufology List
http://www.drboylan.com/goodbadugly.html
BAD GUYS/WOMEN (Bad=harms UFO truth...)
"- Nancy Leider, producer of the fraudulent and disinformation site “ZetaTalk”, which pretends to be her “channeled” messages from “Zetas,” (who would never talk to a purveyor of falsehoods like her)"

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